Lion introduces "Tap King" - party keg / growlers

[robv]

Filled an empty from one of my kegs, with the 12g cartridge carbonation seems perfect. Awesome for taking beer to parties if you already keg.

 

[meathead]

You know that bit in Apollo 13 where they are trying to power up the "LAM" and they need the "procedure"?

Well I need the procedure!

Just sayin

 

[Captain Morgan]

Has anyone else had the issue of the o ring in the top of the bottle being stretched or out of position when removing the empty bottle from the tap? My last few bottles look like they'll need new o rings prior to reusing with HB.

My empties dont come off smoothly, I must say. Feels like a little more effort is involved that I would have thought to move the lever back into place. Possible tap issue I guess with mine...

 

[mrTbeer]

Yep I've had 1 where o ring looked twice as big when it was done.
Designed for single use?

 

[Captain Morgan]

Yep I've had 1 where o ring looked twice as big when it was done.
Designed for single use?

Perhaps! I might try opening the tap until there is absolutely no more fizz next time and see if that makes it any better.

 

[treefiddy]

http://stores.ebay.com.au/Oringsandmore/ORING-SIZE-CHART.html

This guy has cheap bulk silicone o-rings.

 

[JustAdam]

Filled an empty from one of my kegs, with the 12g cartridge carbonation seems perfect. Awesome for taking beer to parties if you already keg.

Where did you get your cartridge Rob?

 

[diver_318]

With regard to the supply of 12g CO2 cartridges. I think that looking at these 2 links you will find they are the same item from the same manufacturer.

http://finewhip.cart.net.au/store/12g-un-threaded-keg-chargers-x-1.html

and

http://www.ezychargers.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=479

if they aren't the same, why is finewhip using the same text?

 

[robv]

Where did you get your cartridge Rob?

Got a couple from the local gun shop to test, will order more from finewhip or somewhere similar.

 

[Hwkdog]

Good pickup diver!

I'm a noob when it comes to home brew, can someone explain the steps of how to get my home brew into empty tk kegs, how much carbonation I need, or do I just put home brew from fermenter in and the c02 will carbonate the tk keg , or will I have to work out the how much carbonation for the 3.2 l keg with the carb drops,

Again I'm new to this,

Thanks in advance

 

[mrTbeer]

Whatever sugar u put in a tallie x4

 

[Rocker1986]

So, the basic process is basically empty the TK bottle, disassemble it, replace the CO2 canister, refill it with carbonated beer or flat beer with priming sugar, reassemble it and let it carbonate as you would a normal bottle if carbonating in this manner, then fit it to the dispenser and chill down?

If carbonating it in the TK bottle itself would you load it into the dispenser straight away or wait until it is carbonated?

Or am I completely off the mark here? :blink: Was thinking about going to Dans and picking one up to have a play around with on my next day off.

 

[JustAdam]

So, the basic process is basically empty the TK bottle, disassemble it, replace the CO2 canister, refill it with carbonated beer or flat beer with priming sugar, reassemble it and let it carbonate as you would a normal bottle if carbonating in this manner, then fit it to the dispenser and chill down?

If carbonating it in the TK bottle itself would you load it into the dispenser straight away or wait until it is carbonated?

Or am I completely off the mark here? :blink: Was thinking about going to Dans and picking one up to have a play around with on my next day off.

Wait until it is carbonated, then chill it and load it. The CO2 in the canister/cap is just for dispensing pressure. Well that is a least my understanding.

 

[Rocker1986]

Wait until it is carbonated, then chill it and load it. The CO2 in the canister/cap is just for dispensing pressure. Well that is a least my understanding.

That's what I was thinking too. I think next Tuesday might be a bit of an investigative day. B)

 

[Hwkdog]

Thanks guys ,

Only a few days till my beer is ready to brew

 

[mrTbeer]

Here's my hack in pictures using 16g bulbs. I had some lying around for my bike.
MFL fitting ($2.50), 6mm hose (had it?), stainless clip ($1), 4mm hose and plastic (TK $23), mini-regulator ($39)

1.Remove 2.Drill 3.Assemble 4.Pour

Put a new TK bottle in here and you can reuse the lid/bulb and bottle after for your HB in another TK.
Put a used TK bottle in here and you can dispense your HB from it.

 

[luckyphil61]

Here's my hack in pictures using 16g bulbs. I had some lying around for my bike.
MFL fitting ($2.50), 6mm hose (had it?), stainless clip ($1), 4mm hose and plastic (TK $23), mini-regulator ($39)

1.Remove 2.Drill 3.Assemble 4.Pour

Put a new TK bottle in here and you can reuse the lid/bulb and bottle after for your HB in another TK.
Put a used TK bottle in here and you can dispense your HB from it.

Well done

 

[Tony M]

Finewhip have no 12g bulbs until mid Sept. All you enthusiasts must have cleaned them out.

Ordered 10 off,12g sparklets from ezychargers @$1.20 ea + $10.00 P&P on Monday afternoon. They arrived early Wednesday and I was equipped with three litres of easily portable beer less than an hour later. I reckon I could refill these from a keg and be ready to go in less than 1/2 hour. My only reservations are that these are a single use container and a few refills would see leaking seals and stripped threads in the plastic where those dreadful little screws are located.

 

[bradsbrew]

. My only reservations are that these are a single use container and a few refills would see leaking seals and stripped threads in the plastic where those dreadful little screws are located.

Which is why you are better off using a different gas source like mrTbeer has. I should have mine done tomorrow, slightly different to his but runs on the same principle.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Here's my hack in pictures using 16g bulbs. I had some lying around for my bike.
MFL fitting ($2.50), 6mm hose (had it?), stainless clip ($1), 4mm hose and plastic (TK $23), mini-regulator ($39)

1.Remove 2.Drill 3.Assemble 4.Pour

Put a new TK bottle in here and you can reuse the lid/bulb and bottle after for your HB in another TK.
Put a used TK bottle in here and you can dispense your HB from it.

Thats a great job. Well done! Tell me, do we need the gauge on the mini-regulator or is all that is required simply an on/off screw? Does the TK still regulate the pressure or does the mini reg now do it?

Cheers

 

[Captain Morgan]

Which is why you are better off using a different gas source like mrTbeer has. I should have mine done tomorrow, slightly different to his but runs on the same principle.

Would love to see that set up Brad if you get a chance please!

 

[swampdog]

For those having trouble with those tiny triangle screws, a Torks T6 hex screwdriver bit fits snug and works a treat!

Anybody worked out how many priming carb drops works the best, I know with the 5l mini kegs you prime with less drops than normal.

 

[Captain Morgan]

I'm no expert but just throwing some potential options around. Just saw this which somebody might be able to do something with here

http://www.velogear.com.au/bike-accessories/pumps-co2/co2-inflators-cartridges/genuine-innovations-microflate-40.html
Here are refills... http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/bike_accessories/innovations/accessories-co2-canisters/innovations-big-air-single-cart/carlton-north/vic/102259138

There are aquarium CO2 setups around too such as this one
http://www.amazingamazon.com.au/fluval-co2-mini-replacement-cartridges.html

But they are expensive refills. Might give people more ideas in relation to the regulator etc tho

Cheap bulbs here too. They look like 8g
http://www.oo.com.au/SodaSparkle-Soda-Chargers-Pa_P128628.cfm

I guess soda stream bottles will be the cheapest overall if we can find a regulator that will do the job?

 

[Captain Morgan]

100 x 16g threaded cartridges for $83 delivered

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CO2-CARTRIDGE-REFILL-16G-THREADED-FOR-BIKE-TYRE-INFLATER-100-PACK-/370873075398?pt=AU_Cycling_New_&hash=item5659c206c6

 

[Thunderlips]

G'day Gents

Got a reply from finewhip about food grade 12g unthreaded bulbs.

They are getting them in next month but the price is $3.50 a bulb which conpared to $1.20 for non food grade chargers

JD

It's a shame you need 12g and not 16g.
You can get a 50 pack of food grade 16g's on Ebay for $47 with free delivery.
I just bought some to use with my 9 litre keg.

 

[Thunderlips]

100 x 16g threaded cartridges for $83 delivered

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CO2-CARTRIDGE-REFILL-16G-THREADED-FOR-BIKE-TYRE-INFLATER-100-PACK-/370873075398?pt=AU_Cycling_New_&hash=item5659c206c6

Same bloke I bought the 50 pack from.
Those cartidges (if they are the same as what's in the picture) are RAV X which are supposed to be food grade.

http://ravx.com/products/co2-cartridges/

Doesn't look like they would be any good for the Tap King bottles but would suit people with party kegs.

 

[rockofclay]

Same bloke I bought the 50 pack from.
Those cartidges (if they are the same as what's in the picture) are RAV X which are supposed to be food grade.

http://ravx.com/products/co2-cartridges/

Doesn't look like they would be any good for the Tap King bottles but would suit people with party kegs.

They're good if you adapt a reg like MrTBeer!

 

[Captain Morgan]

They're good if you adapt a reg like MrTBeer!

Yes sorry, that was my intent when I posted those. I'm looking for cheap CO2 and i'll do whatever it takes to use it. lol

 

[Captain Morgan]

Here's my hack in pictures using 16g bulbs. I had some lying around for my bike.
MFL fitting ($2.50), 6mm hose (had it?), stainless clip ($1), 4mm hose and plastic (TK $23), mini-regulator ($39)

1.Remove 2.Drill 3.Assemble 4.Pour

Put a new TK bottle in here and you can reuse the lid/bulb and bottle after for your HB in another TK.
Put a used TK bottle in here and you can dispense your HB from it.

Where did you get that mini reg please mrT?

 

[Thunderlips]

They're good if you adapt a reg like MrTBeer!

I bought one after seeing MrTbeer's post.
Thanks MrTbeer

I wish that reg was around a few years ago before I bought that expensive mini Leyland reg.