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Hi Doc,

Love the hops in that - what's the grain bill please?

cheers Ross
 
Here is my version of the recipe.
I'm going to run one fermenter through the hopback loaded with Cascade flowers too. The other won't go through the hopback and I can do a side by side comparison of late hopping with and without the hopback.

Doc

Doc's Evil Twin

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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06-B American Pale Ales, American Amber Ale

Min OG: 1.045 Max OG: 1.056
Min IBU: 20 Max IBU: 40
Min Clr: 22 Max Clr: 35 Color in EBC

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 40.00 Wort Size (L): 40.00
Total Grain (kg): 10.93
Anticipated OG: 1.067 Plato: 16.41
Anticipated EBC: 26.3
Anticipated IBU: 24.4
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate: 10.00 Percent Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 47.06 L
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.057 SG 14.07 Plato

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
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78.7 8.60 kg. TF Golden Promise Pale Ale Ma UK 1.037 6
6.7 0.73 kg. JWM Caramalt Australia 1.036 56
6.7 0.73 kg. JWM Light Munich Australia 1.038 20
3.2 0.35 kg. Weyermann Carared Germany 1.036 48
3.2 0.35 kg. JWM Crystal 140 Australia 1.035 145
1.6 0.17 kg. Bairds Pale Chocolate Malt UK 1.033 330

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
26.00 g. Centennial Pellet 9.90 6.6 20 min.
19.00 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 9.50 4.6 20 min.
52.00 g. Centennial Pellet 9.90 7.8 10 min.
38.00 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 9.50 5.5 10 min.
50.00 g. Centennial Pellet 9.90 0.0 0 min.
50.00 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 9.50 0.0 0 min.

Extras

Amount Name Type Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
2.00 Unit(s)Koppafloc Fining 10 Min.(boil)
2.00 Tsp Yeast Nutrient Other 10 Min.(boil)

Yeast
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Safale US-56

Water Profile
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Profile:
Profile known for:

Calcium(Ca): 0.0 ppm
Magnesium(Mg): 0.0 ppm
Sodium(Na): 0.0 ppm
Sulfate(SO4): 0.0 ppm
Chloride(Cl): 0.0 ppm
biCarbonate(HCO3): 0.0 ppm

pH: 0.00


Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step

Grain kg: 10.93
Water Qts: 31.70 - Before Additional Infusions
Water L: 30.00 - Before Additional Infusions

L Water Per kg Grain: 2.74 - Before Additional Infusions

Saccharification Rest Temp : 68 Time: 90
Mash-out Rest Temp : 72 Time: 10
Sparge Temp : 79 Time: 60


Total Mash Volume L: 37.30 - Dough-In Infusion Only

All temperature measurements are degrees Celsius.


Notes
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Based on the Evil Twin recipe from May/June '06 issue on late hopping by Jamil Zainasheff, which itself is based on the Alesmith's Evil Dead Red.
 
How are the twins going Doc? Should be nearly ready to keg :chug:
 
Certainly are Jye.
Kegging the first fermenter (the one that went through the hopback) tomorrow night. Had a snifter last Monday and was tasting mighty good :p

Beers,
Doc
 
I did a "hopburst" yesterday using 120g of Northdown, all at 20 mins or later.

English Pale Ale
92% Barret Burstons Ale Malt
5% melanoidin
3% Flaked maize

4 x 30g Northdown additions at 20, 15, 10, 5.

I'll let you know how it turns out.
 
Kegged the first fermenter tonight of the Evil Twin.
Seems US-56 will konk out at 75% or 7.77% alc whichever comes first.
So the Evil Twin is a bit on the sweet side due to the residual sugars, but does have a great aroma and a good level of bitterness. Does it stack up to the Hop Whompus ? NO :p

I'll have some second opinions after this weekend.

Beers,
Doc
 
Seems US-56 will konk out at 75% or 7.77% alc whichever comes first.

Beers,
Doc

Doc,

I've done several beers that have dropped from 1086 to 1012 with no problem, i have noticed though that it's very dependant on mash temp - i mash these at 63 to 64c max.

cheers Ross
 
Seems US-56 will konk out at 75% or 7.77% alc whichever comes first.

Beers,
Doc

Doc,

I've done several beers that have dropped from 1086 to 1012 with no problem, i have noticed though that it's very dependant on mash temp - i mash these at 63 to 64c max.

cheers Ross

That sounds feasible as my brews are in the 67-68degC range.
The sweetness does help balance the bitterness though :p

Doc
 
Kegged the first fermenter tonight of the Evil Twin.
Seems US-56 will konk out at 75% or 7.77% alc whichever comes first.
So the Evil Twin is a bit on the sweet side due to the residual sugars, but does have a great aroma and a good level of bitterness. Does it stack up to the Hop Whompus ? NO :p

I'll have some second opinions after this weekend.

Beers,
Doc

Its the 'Not so Evil Twin' since the ABV wasn't 6.66% :p
 
True.
My RauchHefeDunkelRyeizenBock Cream Ale is the Evil one that did come in at 6.66% :p

Doc
 
Had half a litre of the Evil Twin last night.
Big aroma (expected because of the hopback as well as the late hops), big thick meringue style head. Beautiful burgandy colour and huge hop flavour. Much more than I expected (but yet to try the fermenter that didn't go through the hopback).
How does it compare to the Hop Whompus ? Very well. A very hoppy beer. The Hop Whompus does stomp all over it in terms of an allround assault on the senses. Drinking anything in the normal range of bitterness after these beers is like drinking slightly flavoured coloured water.

Doc
 
Doc, any reviews on the non-hopback Evil Twin?

I will be brewing my version tomorrow but Im still unsure when I will add the 0min hops, my latest thought is half at flame out and half dry hopped... that will most likely change by tomorrow :D


Evil Twin

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU

4.50 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (Thomas Fawcett) (3.0 SRM) Grain 81.1 %
0.40 kg Munich, Light (Joe White) (9.0 SRM) Grain 7.2 %
0.30 kg Melanoidin (Weyermann) (30.0 SRM) Grain 5.4 %
0.20 kg Amber Malt (Joe White) (23.0 SRM) Grain 3.6 %
0.15 kg Chocolate Malt (Joe White) (381.0 SRM) Grain 2.7 %

20.00 gm Centennial [10.00%] (10 min) Hops 8.3 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.40%] (10 min) Hops 7.0 IBU
10.00 gm Centennial [10.00%] (20 min) Hops 6.9 IBU
10.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.40%] (20 min) Hops 5.8 IBU
30.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.40%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
30.00 gm Centennial [10.00%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -

1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.067 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.000 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.016 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.000 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.6 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.0 %
Bitterness: 28.0 IBU Calories: -4 cal/l
Est Color: 17.1 SRM Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: SK - Double Infusion, Light Body Total Grain Weight: 5.55 kg
Sparge Water: 23.79 L Grain Temperature: 17.0 C
Sparge Temperature: 100.0 C TunTemperature: 17.0 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Protein Rest Add 8.32 L of water at 61.4 C 50.0 C 30 min
Saccrification Add 5.55 L of water at 96.2 C 65.0 C 60 min
 
Good reviews so far.Hanging out to do a hop whompus as ive read the original from jeff bagbys article.

Cheers
Big D
 
The non-hopbacked Hopburst is still in the fermenter. I'll snifter a glass later on to see what it is tasting like.
For some reason all my kegs are near full at the moment, and with drinking the Xmas Case beers, and empty keg is looking a we way off. I'll be dreading it when in a couple of weeks all gets will blow in a week :(

Doc
 
Just went and thiefed a sample from the fermenter.
Even though it is sitting at 18degC it appears to be very close to the hopback version, minus the pow of aroma and maybe a little bitterness. Still very good. Will do a side by side tasting when I get the non-hopped back one kegged and if there is still any of the hopback version left as it is dissappearing quickly and I only started with 3 gal of it.

Doc
 
Hey Doc, got to try your Evil Twin last night at Ross's and you are right about the big aroma from the hop-back. It also seemed a bit higher than 25 IBUS, could this be due to the hop-back?


I will be kegging mine tonight and cant wait... might have to send you a bottle for comparison :chug:
 
Having enjoyed Jye's APA yesterday immensely, I'm putting one down tomorrow, which is heavily based on Jye's recipe but with added simcoe.

Carbrook Hopburst
American Pale Ale


Type: All Grain
Date: 5/09/2006
Batch Size: 26.00 L
Brewer: Ross
Boil Size: 34.00 L As
Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 85.0

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.50 kg Pale Malt, Golden Promise (Thomas Fawcett) (5.9 EBC) Grain 81.8 %
0.40 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 7.3 %
0.40 kg Wheat Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.0 EBC) Grain 7.3 %
0.20 kg Melanoiden Malt (39.4 EBC) Grain 3.6 %
20.00 gm Centennial [9.40%] (20 min) Hops 10.7 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.40%] (20 min) Hops 9.6 IBU
10.00 gm Simcoe [13.60%] (20 min) Hops 7.7 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [6.00%] (20 min) Hops 6.8 IBU
20.00 gm Simcoe [12.00%] (5 min) Hops 4.5 IBU
20.00 gm Centennial [10.00%] (5 min) Hops 3.7 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo Gold [9.00%] (5 min) Hops 3.4 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [6.00%] (5 min) Hops 2.2 IBU
10.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Cascade [5.00%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Centennial [10.00%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
10.00 gm Simcoe [12.00%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 tsp Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
1.00 tsp Table Salt (Boil 90.0 min) Misc
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Safale #056) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.056 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.6 %
Bitterness: 48.7 IBU Calories: 556 cal/l
Est Color: 11.1 EBC Color: Color

Cheers Ross
 
Nice one Ross, Simcoe is yummers :chug:

Heres the original.

1st Anniversary APA
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 16/08/2006
Style: American Pale Ale Brewer: Jye
Batch Size: 24.00 L Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 31.98 L Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.0 % Equipment: SK Brew Hous
Actual Efficiency: 82.7 %
Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.25 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.9 EBC) Grain 81.0 %
0.40 kg Munich, Dark (Joe White) (29.6 EBC) Grain 7.6 %
0.40 kg Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (3.5 EBC) Grain 7.6 %
0.20 kg Melanoidin (Weyermann) (59.1 EBC) Grain 3.8 %
18.00 gm Cascade, Amarillo, Centennial Mix [8.10%] (30 min) Hops 11.6 IBU
18.00 gm Cascade, Amarillo, Centennial Mix [8.10%] (25 min) Hops 10.5 IBU
18.00 gm Cascade, Amarillo, Centennial Mix [8.10%] (20 min) Hops 9.1 IBU
18.00 gm Cascade, Amarillo, Centennial Mix [8.10%] (15 min) Hops 7.5 IBU
36.00 gm Cascade, Amarillo, Centennial Mix [8.10%] (10 min) Hops 10.9 IBU
36.00 gm Cascade, Amarillo, Centennial Mix [8.10%] (5 min) Hops 6.0 IBU
45.00 gm Cascade, Amarillo, Centennial Mix [8.10%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Nottingham Yeast (Lallemand #-) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.055 SG (1.045-1.060 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.057 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.013 SG (1.010-1.015 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.014 SG
Estimated Color: 13.1 EBC (9.9-27.6 EBC) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 55.6 IBU (30.0-50.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 3.2 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 5.5 % (4.5-6.0 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 5.6 %
Actual Calories: 539 cal/l
 
Hey Doc, got to try your Evil Twin last night at Ross's and you are right about the big aroma from the hop-back. It also seemed a bit higher than 25 IBUS, could this be due to the hop-back?


I will be kegging mine tonight and cant wait... might have to send you a bottle for comparison :chug:

Hi Jye,

I missed this post.
Yes, definitely from the hopback. It makes a big noticable difference.
Side by side with the non-hopback Evil Twin (same wort, same yeast, same brew), they are like two completely different beers.
Although even the non-hopbacked beer tastes like more that 25 IBU.

Doc
 
Ross the original Hopburst idea is to hop rather heavily from 30 minutes down at every 5 minute interval.I notice you have missed a few additions which is off mark from cj,s original hopburst idea.No doubt still tastes great but thought i would let you know.

Cheers
Big D
 
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