Hens Tooth

[j1gsaw]

Hi gang.
I tried a beer called "Hens Tooth" a while ago, and it was bloody great.
Anyone got a recipe for it? prefer k&k but can get more technical if need be. cheers.

 

[Katherine]

it's a real ale by memory?????

can of coopers real ale, and 1.5kg of ldm....

Its being awhile since ive done a k&K but i reckon that would work. You wont get the Hens Tooth. Im unsure why people try clone a beer. You can brew a style of beer!

 

[jayse]

Im unsure why people try clone a beer. You can brew a style of beer!

Me too.

Have you brewed a english ale before jsaw? hens tooth is as expected, ale malt, crystal malt, challenger and goldings hops, just like many english ales.

best kit would be the muntons gold range if your willing to spend 50 bucks

 

[Katherine]

Me too.

Have you brewed a english ale before jsaw? hens tooth is as expected, ale malt, crystal malt, challenger and goldings hops, just like many english ales.

best kit would be the muntons gold range if your willing to spend 50 bucks

$50.00 bucks for a kit??? F*ck ... Really...

 

[j1gsaw]

$50!! croak.. groan...
will look into it, cheers.

 

[Swinging Beef]

$50!! croak.. groan...
will look into it, cheers.

Hens Tooth
23L at OG 1.065, 6.5% ABV
75% Efficiency

5724g Pipkin Pale Malt
372g Crystal Malt
Mash at 65C for 90 minutes

27g Challenger Hops (9.3% Alpha Acid) full boil
17g Goldings Hops (6% Alpha Acid) last 45 Minutes
11g Goldings Hops (6% Alpha Acid) last 15 Minutes


Appropriated from English Brew forum.
Looks fluffin tasty!

 

[chappo1970]

Hens Tooth
23L at OG 1.065, 6.5% ABV
75% Efficiency

5724g Pipkin Pale Malt
372g Crystal Malt
Mash at 65C for 90 minutes

27g Challenger Hops (9.3% Alpha Acid) full boil
17g Goldings Hops (6% Alpha Acid) last 45 Minutes
11g Goldings Hops (6% Alpha Acid) last 15 Minutes


Appropriated from English Brew forum.
Looks fluffin tasty!

How simple it that SB?

Might have to go into the to do list? English Ale Wyeast 1028 or Noto yeast do you think?

 

[Swinging Beef]

Might have to go into the to do list? English Ale Wyeast 1028 or Noto yeast do you think?

Whatever is slurrying at the bottom of the previous ferment, Im guessing.
Actually, this would be a great beer for me to use to get the bulk yeast Im gonna need for winters barley wines.
Im quite a fan of the Whitbread 1099 because it has the balls to go up to 12% or so.

 

[Bribie G]

"Cloning"
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<Mini Rant:>

Typical scenario:

My Post Number 3, HI I'm a noob and picking up my fermenter vat thingo tomorrow and really love Pilsner Urquell and about to clone it - do you have a good exact kit recipe, I was told that a Brewcraft........

Now, I've been a Kit n Kilo man myself and still buy kits for my partial that I make. however I gleaned enough beer making information early on to realise that the correct answer to the above request would be:

Buy several hectares of property in the Czech Republic with a well that provides water of the following specifications: After building a very large brewery with underground vaults and constructing very large pitch lined fermenting and lagering tanks...and after a hundred and fifty years of experience and tradition, take some Bohemian malts and start with the following decoction mash......

Not knocking beginning brewers, we have all been there, but look at it this way, if we were a vintage car club forum not a brewing forum and a new member said something like "I have just bought a second hand Hyundai Excel and would like any plans or patterns for converting it into a 1938 Mercedes Staff Car replica...." the longer serving members would guide us tenderly away from that idea.

So my reply to the 'clone' enquiries would be " look, until you have mastered the basics and produced a few beers that you enjoy - kit or otherwise - you will find it difficult to emulate (not clone) those beers you aspire to. By the time you have acquired that knowledge and skill you will appreciate that your backyard operation is, at the end of the day, not going to produce exactly the same beer that is crafted in multi million dollar breweries, some of them with centuries of tradition and skills and nowadays populated by staff who have studied brewing at universities and many of whom have developed their skills in fine breweries such as Weinsteinstephan ...(sp?)

However at the end of the day you may produce something approximating to that style and may even hit on a recipe that emulates it quite well, but just for now little grasshopper a can of goop and a packet of BE2 ain't going to cut it."

Look, not being snobbish... I'm only ten percent down the track myself and I know it ... but I think we are not doing any favour to new brewers by hinting that the great beers of the world are only a can opener away. There's a difference between telling them what we think they would like to hear, and being realistic. My 2c.

</ mini rant>

Hey j1gsaw, that wasn't aimed at you or trying to burst your bubble, nothing of the sort, just a general rant that's been building up for a while ... Obvioulsy you are keen to progress beyond kits, and if you want to emulate UK beer STYLES you can certainly get up to that level but will first need to get a bit of practice in mashing, (partials or all grain), the use of the different UK hops and what they can do for you, the yeasts, etc etc and in that department you will get all the assistance you will need on the forum here. :icon_cheers:
You have actually gone in the right direction by tasting a beer that you like so that you know what it is you are aiming for. Next step is to find out how to decipher a recipe and formulate a brew that heads in that direction, a good source of info being S.B's post above.

 

[jayse]

you have too much time on your hands bribie to type all that out :lol:
Now get out and brew :excl:

By the way I have a 100 dollar guitar from kmart can I turn it into a '58 les paul?

 

[chappo1970]

Not knocking beginning brewers, we have all been there, but look at it this way, if we were a vintage car club forum not a brewing forum and a new member said something like "I have just bought a second hand Hyundai Excel and would like any plans or patterns for converting it into a 1938 Mercedes Staff Car replica...." the longer serving members would guide us tenderly away from that idea.

So my reply to the 'clone' enquiries would be " look, until you have mastered the basics and produced a few beers that you enjoy - kit or otherwise - you will find it difficult to emulate (not clone) those beers you aspire to. By the time you have acquired that knowledge and skill you will appreciate that your backyard operation is, at the end of the day, not going to produce exactly the same beer that is crafted in multi million dollar breweries, some of them with centuries of tradition and skills and nowadays populated by staff who have studied brewing at universities and many of whom have developed their skills in fine breweries such as Weinsteinstephan ...(sp?)

However at the end of the day you may produce something approximating to that style and may even hit on a recipe that emulates it quite well, but just for now little grasshopper a can of goop and a packet of BE2 ain't going to cut it."

Look, not being snobbish... I'm only ten percent down the track myself and I know it ... but I think we are not doing any favour to new brewers by hinting that the great beers of the world are only a can opener away. There's a difference between telling them what we think they would like to hear, and being realistic. My 2c.

I whole heartedly agree with you BribieG. It had to be said and you said it well. Christ 2 posts ago he was talking about putting a 1kg of caster sugar in a brew FFS. The thread actually sparked some interesting posts, thank god.

I feel J1G your interest is more in producing alcohol ATM than producing a truely fanastic beer.

 

[Swinging Beef]

By the way I have a 100 dollar guitar from kmart can I turn it into a '58 les paul?

Do this to both of them, they will sound and play identical.

 

[Katherine]

I whole heartedly agree with you BribieG. It had to be said and you said it well. Christ 2 posts ago he was talking about putting a 1kg of caster sugar in a brew FFS. The thread actually sparked some interesting posts, thank god.

I feel J1G your interest is more in producing alcohol ATM than producing a truely fanastic beer.

Jayse and I actually said that... but in one line! Though I am envious I wish I could write like that...

I can code though... lol!

 

[chappo1970]

Jayse and I actually said that... but in one line! Though I am envious I wish I could write like that...

I can code though... lol!

:lol:
Meh! I have a tatent for bs .

 

[joecast]

:lol:
Meh! I have a tatent for bs .

:icon_offtopic:
talent chappo? thats like saying thorpie had a talent for swimming!
joe

 

[warrenlw63]

Do this to both of them, they will sound and play identical.

You can't blame Paul Simonon for it. That's what happens when you get relegated to the bass. :lol:

Warren -

 

[reviled]

I whole heartedly agree with you BribieG. It had to be said and you said it well. Christ 2 posts ago he was talking about putting a 1kg of caster sugar in a brew FFS. The thread actually sparked some interesting posts, thank god.

I feel J1G your interest is more in producing alcohol ATM than producing a truely fanastic beer.

Hey dont flame him for that, I used to be like that too h34r: It comes with the ability of being able to make alcohol and thinking, "I wonder what I can get away with?"

Itll pass, it did for me, all my K&K lagers used to be 6-7% crazy! But then I tasted an ordinary bitter, and realised that I really really LOVE drinking beer, and if I can consume more of it then that makes me happy, rather thank drinking less higher alcohol brews..

:icon_offtopic: The Who are playing in AKL next week and ive got a ticket!!! Awesome!

 

[j1gsaw]

Plenty of good advice in here, always is, I do realise its not possible to clone the exact beer your after, but if you can get close to it, your laughing.
I must admit, i have only done 15 brews so far in the last 2 1/2 months, and naturally still reaching out and trying new hops and malts etc.
Grains wont be far away!

 

[Katherine]

Hey dont flame him for that, I used to be like that too h34r: It comes with the ability of being able to make alcohol and thinking, "I wonder what I can get away with?"

Itll pass, it did for me, all my K&K lagers used to be 6-7% crazy! But then I tasted an ordinary bitter, and realised that I really really LOVE drinking beer, and if I can consume more of it then that makes me happy, rather thank drinking less higher alcohol brews..

:icon_offtopic: The Who are playing in AKL next week and ive got a ticket!!! Awesome!

Yeah I agree with you.... but then Chappo is still in that same cycle of just becoming a AG'er and slacking of the K&Kr....

Katie hides behind her keyboard! :blink:

 

[Katherine]

Plenty of good advice in here, always is, I do realise its not possible to clone the exact beer your after, but if you can get close to it, your laughing.
I must admit, i have only done 15 brews so far in the last 2 1/2 months, and naturally still reaching out and trying new hops and malts etc.
Grains wont be far away!

You should be ashamed of yourself, 15 brews in two months get brewing.... you lazy git! :icon_cheers: