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manticle said:
Not quite but it was a long road and three degrees to get to a point where I earn a wage considered slightly above the mean (very slightly above but I do also love my job). On job experience and attitude (and hard work) at least as valuable as uni, would have been better off financially learning a trade.

Wouldn't swap my life for another as I'm really happy - just not what I was led to believe.
You could have done 3 trades then bought a coal mine...

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manticle said:
Tell me about it. Just starting earning enough to start paying it off.

Get a university education they said....mumble, mumble*

*slight asterisk reference
Got it, 'preciated and enjoyed it.

Wonder if I can get some work withmy brother in law in Lutetia.

Keep 'em coming.
 
madpierre06 said:
Got it, 'preciated and enjoyed it.
Wonder if I can get some work withmy brother in law in Lutetia.
Keep 'em coming.
Not sure I can cope with all the little white dogs in this thread.
 
manticle said:
Tell me about it. Just starting earning enough to start paying it off.

Get a university education they said....mumble, mumble*

*slight asterisk reference
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Ducatiboy stu said:
But can you pour beer ?
I can multitask....sing badly and pour vile'ish concoctions, my cousin getafix can vouch for that. I thought my coat and whiskers were a giveaway.
 
I don't need the beer, fell in it as a baby.

I'm happy to work for below award wages as long as my employer can sack me without notice, and dock me any charges he deems necessary for the trouble he has to go to when trying to replace me with someone prepared to accept same or worse conditions on lower pay.
 
Your Hired.

Bring your own uniform.

....and make sure you go to the toilet before you start work
 
Burt de Ernie said:
What does a first year need to know that a third year cant teach him/her?
How would it be received if it was a third year medical student teaching a first year medical student how to be a doctor? Not well I'd wager.
 
I was teaching 1st years as a 3rd year in my first apprenticeship as a young buck. In a trade your first year is mainly getting your head around basic processes and lingo while performing menial labour. You're not expected to perform open heart surgery. If I employed a 3rd year who couldn't teach a 1st year I'd be looking at myself to blame. I believe you learn quicker in an apprenticeship than a university degree as you're performing the practical aspect of the job as you learn.

Mods, can we rename this the 'All Topics Thread?'
 
manticle said:
Maybe we should start a business and pay people half the going rate would be a step closer to the truth.
Apprenticeship scheme is a good thing if used properly - ie get experienced staff, get apprentices, train apprentices properly using experienced staff to do so.
Apprentices are not a budget measure - they are an investment which is why they are subsidised.
Could invest in tech colleges again. Would go a long way.

And apprentices get ripped off by unscrupulous employers too.
Funny you should say that.
Funny unless of course you're a student on a work visa.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2015/08/30/4301164.htm
 
Ducatiboy stu said:
I cry sometimes when I see the quality of apprentices and new tradesmen come thru.

I tell blokes that my first 3 months of my apprenticeship involved filing, bluing, drilling, marking...... True & proper hand skills.

Some of these new guys coming thru scare the bejezzuz out of me. None of the pride in workmanship. Get in, get it done quick, move on...

I think its sad that we have let our skillsets as proper tradesmen decline to the point when a new builder cant even sharpen a ******* chisel properly


And anyone who doesn't think that apprentices go around doing unsupervised work....even laborers for that matter.......
Common practice in the 60's
I worked unsupervised for the whole of my 5th year of apprenticeship and most of the time supervised new apprentices
 
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