Goodbye Bronwyn

[seamad]

Start and believe in the LNP stu. There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you. Stu, you do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to Australia.
Stu: I'll never join you!
Weal: If you only knew the power of the Dark Side. Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.
Stu: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Weal: No. I am your father.
Stu: No...no. That's not true. That's impossible!
Weal: Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
Stu: Noooo! Nooooo!


FTFY

 

[Vini2ton]

Even back to Menzies it was the mining mogals calling the shots and pulling the strings. They've always held the power in Australian politics. They ousted Rudd no1, not the labor party.... And what about that Leigh Sales on the ABC, she's aways spouting off her commo leftist ideas. The Drum, they ought to call that the Marxist show! I'll be glad when they sell the ABC to Murdoch. And stop picking on Eric Abetz, he can't help what his great-uncle did. After all, he did save all that artwork for the Fuhrer.

 

[goomboogo]

Source. Fact Check. then the governments response.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-12/china-free-trade-agreement-cost-australian-jobs-fact-check/6653214

http://trademinister.gov.au/releases/Pages/2015/ar_mr_150813.aspx?ministerid=3

If the ABC are going to interview the Unions about ChAFTA and getting a one sided view, wouldn't it be better journalism to have Robb there at the same time, and let them go at it in the same ring, it would be more entertaining than interviewing them separately.

Camo, Mentioning Bronwyn in the thread title could have been the mistake, she didn't want to go either.

Andrew Robb has zero credibility. He will look you straight in the face and claim 457 visas offer unwavering protection for local skilled workers and rorting doesn't take place. He is either incompetent or deceitful. Maybe both. The manner in which he passes off policy as regulation is the height of stupidity.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Even back to Menzies it was the mining mogals calling the shots and pulling the strings. They've always held the power in Australian politics. They ousted Rudd no1, not the labor party.... And what about that Leigh Sales on the ABC, she's aways spouting off her commo leftist ideas. The Drum, they ought to call that the Marxist show! I'll be glad when they sell the ABC to Murdoch. And stop picking on Eric Abetz, he can't help what his great-uncle did. After all, he did save all that artwork for the Fuhrer.

Probably should lay off George Brandis then. Him and Morrison often hold hands together sitting in church every Sunday displaying that they are wholesome, white, Christian pillars of society

 

[manticle]

They are white because they are shining with God's love.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

They are white because they are shining with God's love.

Its a wonder there not badly sunburnt from the amount of God's love

 

[Black Devil Dog]

They've got loveburn.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Andrew Robb has zero credibility. He will look you straight in the face and claim 457 visas offer unwavering protection for local skilled workers and rorting doesn't take place. He is either incompetent or deceitful. Maybe both. The manner in which he passes off policy as regulation is the height of stupidity.

Sorry goomboogo, not sure if I am following the purpose of the post, are you just expressing a personal opinion of Andrew Robb or that the ABC is correct in their view of ChAFTA ?

 

[Airgead]

Even back to Menzies it was the mining mogals calling the shots and pulling the strings. They've always held the power in Australian politics. They ousted Rudd no1, not the labor party.... And what about that Leigh Sales on the ABC, she's aways spouting off her commo leftist ideas. The Drum, they ought to call that the Marxist show! I'll be glad when they sell the ABC to Murdoch. And stop picking on Eric Abetz, he can't help what his great-uncle did. After all, he did save all that artwork for the Fuhrer.

Given some of the posts in this thread, not sure if trolling...or just really daft.

Edit: spelloing

 

[goomboogo]

WEAL, you referenced Robb's website as though we should take his word as fact. His response is obfuscation as it doesn't remotely address the proposition put to him. As I said earlier, he either doesn't understand the detail or he is deliberately misleading. I woudn'the trust him with a piggy-bank let alone a complex trade deal.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I referenced Robbs reply to Fact Check, it is up to whoever reads it whether they believe it or not, after all Robb is the front man in the negotiations, there are scores of people working behind the scenes, it isn't him who writes out these agreements it is the team behind him.
Surely you wouldn't deny him the right to reply, to the false facts put forward on the program.

 

[goomboogo]

He didn't reply to any so-called false facts. He just trotted out a very old line that doesn't hold up when met with real world situations. I do agree with your point about him being nothing more than a PR man. This is why he should refrain from speaking about detail he is incapable of understanding.

 

[Dave70]

They are white because they are shining with God's love.

Its just so beautiful when that happens. Praise the lord.

 

[manticle]

Given some of the posts in this thread, not sure if trolling...or just really daft.

Edit: spelloing

Pretty sure it was written in sarcastic font.

 

[JDW81]

Its just so beautiful when that happens. Praise the lord.

Have you seen the light?

 

[JDW81]

Murdoch is a bit closer to the truth than Fairfax.

Really? The news outlets of a controlling, media mogul, who is renowned for hand picking his editorial staff to push his agenda is closer to the truth of an organisation with a longstanding charter of editorial independence? As I recall, Gina Rinehart tried to buy her way onto the board of fairfax and demanded the right to hire and fire the editorial staff and the scrapping of their longstanding editorial independence. She was told to bugger off.

I suppose Murdoch has Andrew Bolt and Piers Akerman working for him. They're pretty trustworthy fellows.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

He didn't reply to any so-called false facts. He just trotted out a very old line that doesn't hold up when met with real world situations. I do agree with your point about him being nothing more than a PR man. This is why he should refrain from speaking about detail he is incapable of understanding.

I don't think we are going to agree on the contentions the unions have with the ChAFTA, looking at it in a logical perspective it would be political suicide if the Abbott government signed off on an agreement which would see Australians loose out on jobs, I believe that it is an opportunity to good to miss, and I would back it as it is, whichever party signed off on it.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Really? The news outlets of a controlling, media mogul, who is renowned for hand picking his editorial staff to push his agenda is closer to the truth of an organisation with a longstanding charter of editorial independence? As I recall, Gina Rinehart tried to buy her way onto the board of fairfax and demanded the right to hire and fire the editorial staff and the scrapping of their longstanding editorial independence. She was told to bugger off.

I suppose Murdoch has Andrew Bolt and Piers Akerman working for him. They're pretty trustworthy fellows.

Wow, took along time for someone to bite on that line, even stu wrote it off with a flippant reply.

 

[JDW81]

Wow, took along time for someone to bite on that line, even stu wrote it off with a flippant reply.

Not trying to bite, just adding my view to this ongoing discussion, even if you did make your point with your tongue pushed firmly into your cheek.

JD

 

[Airgead]

Pretty sure it was written in sarcastic font.

I hope so... for the sale of our future as a species, i really hope so.