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I picked up my Crown 40L w/ concealed element from a local commercial kitchen installer for $264. Don't be afraid to check the stockist list on the crown website and shoot off a few emails.

That was last Friday. I was genuinely surprised how long it took to boil (having never boiled 38L of water before). Dont have the data with me but it was +2 hours. That's indoor with Melbourne town water (feels like 2 degrees, thermometer assures me it's about 14). But after a test run (water only) the heating times go straight into the brew schedule, no more worries. I will be picking up a $10 or $25 timer from Jaycar in the next week or so though.

Haven't done the mod, no insulation, ambient 20-21 degrees, and I was happy with the rolling boil (once it got there).

Pros:
- Just plugs into the wall.
- Takes up bugger all space in the shed.
- Safe for indoor use.
- Easy to clean.
- Level tube on the outside great for volume measurements (once you've marked out litres).
- Tap, thermostat etc. already fitted.
- 12mth warranty.
- My wife understands it's my passion and doesn't bitch (too much) about the smell.

Cons:
-It's slow.
 
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