Fully Automated Brewing System Design

[yardy]

seriously, for the $6K you've spent you would be getting close to buying a system similar to this one or have had a good turnkey system built for you



it's all about the beer mate, not reinventing the wheel

cheers

 

[rwmingis]

it's all about the beer mate, not reinventing the wheel

Reinventing the wheel, probably, but this is Bandito's little toy. I reckon something good will come out of all of this for some of us. We're getting free R&D experience really.

Ie, I want one of them peri pumps for my cold side, ie starting siphons in a clean manner, etc.

Where'd you get them again?

 

[paulwolf350]

seriously, for the $6K you've spent you would be getting close to buying a system similar to this one or have had a good turnkey system built for you

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it's all about the beer mate, not reinventing the wheel

cheers

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one of these is $4700, add $1500 for automation, and you are where bandito at now. Reinventing the wheel may be interesting, but not very cost effective

Paul

 

[Zizzle]

I reckon something good will come out of all of this for some of us. We're getting free R&D experience really.

But all of this stuff has been done. It doesn't need R&D.

 

[Bandito]

seriously, for the $6K you've spent you would be getting close to buying a system similar to this one or have had a good turnkey system built for you

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it's all about the beer mate, not reinventing the wheel

cheers

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one of these is $4700, add $1500 for automation, and you are where bandito at now. Reinventing the wheel may be interesting, but not very cost effective

Paul

Once again guys please stop spreading misinformation - one person says it so now its true?, in a few more posts someone will think it double that again - that is the final cost in like 4 months time when its finnished - I havent spent anywhere near that yet. I like reinventing - you cant say this wont be original, and yesterday was fun as. What passes for turnkey automation these days is a herms - far from full.

Current cost so far is like 2K not 6K! And I should have enough valves left ofer to make an automated instant coffee machine, so it will make coffee for me in the morning - but that will be after wards mabee

And of course there wont be any 3 peice ball valves to clean

 

[winkle]

Once again guys please stop spreading misinformation - one person says it so now its true?, in a few more posts someone will think it double that again - that is the final cost in like 4 months time when its finnished - I havent spent anywhere near that yet. I like reinventing - you cant say this wont be original, and yesterday was fun as. What passes for turnkey automation these days is a herms - far from full.

Current cost so far is like 2K not 6K! And I should have enough valves left ofer to make an automated instant coffee machine, so it will make coffee for me in the morning - but that will be after wards.

Actually the SABCO Brewmagic is a RIMS, but it would need a fair bit of work for full automation (not that I would bother - but hey whatever floats your boat).

 

[yardy]

Reinventing the wheel, probably, but this is Bandito's little toy. I reckon something good will come out of all of this for some of us.

i'm not trying to slag him or his project, (good luck to him) I'm just not of the view that we all sit here aghast at his brilliant new discoveries, because they're not.

this is supposed to be about ease of use and simplicity isn't it ?

as far as i can see bandito is taking the long long way around a well trodden road, instead of trying to reinvent the brewery wheel, he could have by now a decent system for his $2000 that would be making beer.

(apologies for the quoted $6000, but 2K is still a substantial amount for a system that's not producing beer imho )

thumbs up to the dedication and tenacity to get it built but it looks like a long time between drinks for burrito

cheers

Dave

 

[Bandito]

Who said it wasnt making beer! :lol: Insulated the tubes with socks wrapped around then gladwrap! Didnt bother testing too much, decided thats the best it will get today, so put on a little mash - as usual, no recipe - just freeballing it. 1kg pils, 100gm crystal, 125gm chocolate. 63C mash for ? time. Sazz hops in boil. Will try pumping out of boil pot with stainless braid over the end using the other pump. Thinking a false bottom in the kettle might be going a bit overboard in the full version too.

The valve on the right leaked through a few drops, still needs some tweaking.

 

[bradsbrew]

Thats what I like to see ...Dodgy systems making beer :beer:

You do know you have to crush the grain first though.

And is the bitburger vessel your no chill, fermenter or keg??

 

[Bandito]

Thats what I like to see ...Dodgy systems making beer :beer:

Bloody oath! Boiling the first batch, and mashing the second :lol: Not sure if I can keep it up for a third mash though. Mabee tomorrow night.

Grain is brewcraft precracked, and the bitburger is empty and just a stand for the capacitance meter.

 

[gregs]

i'm not trying to slag him or his project, (good luck to him) I'm just not of the view that we all sit here aghast at his brilliant new discoveries, because they're not.

this is supposed to be about ease of use and simplicity isn't it ?

as far as i can see bandito is taking the long long way around a well trodden road, instead of trying to reinvent the brewery wheel, he could have by now a decent system for his $2000 that would be making beer.

(apologies for the quoted $6000, but 2K is still a substantial amount for a system that's not producing beer imho )

thumbs up to the dedication and tenacity to get it built but it looks like a long time between drinks for burrito

cheers

Dave

I would have to agree with you on this one Yards. Good luck to Bandito, obviously he likes to muck around with things but I dont see any brilliance here, it looks like a lot of fooling around and playing with stuff that other people have been doing successfully for years. Except what hes doing looks rather bodgie and cheap.

Im not knockn the guy either, but as I said I dont see any brilliance here.

 

[Bizier]

I think it is a very entertaining read to date. And while Bandito is not original in theory, it is pretty original in scale and bizarreness. I am assuming that his final setup is going to be a little more polished than the assembly of basic kitchen items. Bandito, I think it couldn't get more Gilligan's Island unless you included a coconut mash tun with bamboo transfer lines. I think you should change your name to "The Professor".

I am far more interested in you spending $2000 on wackiness than a pre-fab HERMS/RIMS or whatever and posting about that, although I'd be jealous.

 

[Bandito]

So after todays testing, I think the valve on the mash tun is too open and will reduce the bore back to 1.5mm to slow the flow to increase clarity. 2mm holes in false bottom seem great, so that should be fine for the full sized version. The stainless braid left all of the hops in the boil pot, so thats good for the full sized version too. The pumps handled being used for 1.5 hours at a time in the bodgy herms abomonation, and the teflon tube did transfer heat to the wort, but require insulation to stop them transferring too much heat to the air. The pumps also handled being sterilised by pumping boiling water, and pumping just boiled wort.

Bit disappointed nothing blew up or went drastically wrong, as part of the point was to identify weak points. Although the valve did leak a few drops, I overfilled the MLT with sparge water causing some to go on the bench, and I did add strike water with the valve open, so not completely uneventful :lol:

Yea, its not meant to be brilliant, but I'm liking the bizzzreness! Would love to see a gilligans island brewery too!

 

[Bandito]

The 50 feet of silicon tube just arrived! At 7:30 am :blink:

So thats the veins, heart and heart valves sorted. Gonna be a good day.

 

[T.D.]

We all wish you well, but I have to wonder - $6,000 spent and not a drop of beer to show for it.

Man, where are your priorities !

Well, given that there is another automation project being touted on this forum that has been happening for around two and a half years since its inception, without a single drop of wort being produced, it doesn't seem that building these systems is really about the beer at all. What it is about is debatable I guess, but I have my suspicions.

 

[T.D.]

(apologies for the quoted $6000, but 2K is still a substantial amount for a system that's not producing beer imho )

Again, why is this stuff being directed to Bandito?? In another thread Jonathon has spent two and a half years on an automated brewery that has not produced a drop of beer, and I shudder to think what the cost sums to thus far. I dare say much more than $2k. At least Bandido has only spent a few months on it...

I am definitely more about the beer than the bling, but even so I think some consistency would be good with these things. The gushing in that other thread makes me want to :icon_vomit:

 

[Jono_w]

Again, why is this stuff being directed to Bandito?? In another thread Jonathon has spent two and a half years on an automated brewery that has not produced a drop of beer, and I shudder to think what the cost sums to thus far. I dare say much more than $2k. At least Bandido has only spent a few months on it...

I am definitely more about the beer than the bling, but even so I think some consistency would be good with these things. The gushing in that other thread makes me want to :icon_vomit:

Here we go again!

 

[T.D.]

Here we go again!

:lol: isn't there a youtube video you could be editing?

 

[beerDingo]

NIce one Bandito! Just ignore all of the naysayers! Don't know what their problem is... Why do they read the thread if they think it is such a dumb idea?

I'm assuming that Bandito likes making/designing things! My guess that this is where he will get most of his enjoyment from this system. Actualy designing and making it. I'm sure that if he went out and just bought a system like some are yelling for him to do, he'd feel like he cheated, and have no satisfaction at the end of it. Obviously he'll get even more satisfaction once (if ever) this system is producing beer for him!

I do agree, that there are many people who know more about making something like this, but it seems that he is enjoying the whole process, and trying to find new ways of doing things (even if they are not always new).

If no-one tried anything new, then we'd be stuck with the same old shit! (What??? People are making their own beer recipes????) Also, look at all the different equipement and methods that people make beer with already. Not everyone does it the same, and some of the "dodgier" systems can make better beer than something that is all blinged out (and vice versa). Also, some people just like bling...

Anyway, good luck to you, and keep the updates coming.

 

[Phoney]

My father in law has a vintage car in his garage that he's spent about 10 years building from the chassis up, and it isnt even finished yet. He's spent thousands of dollars and countless hundreds of hours on it, scouring the world looking for obscure parts, in some cases making or modifying his own. Yet he's only got to the point where he could start the engine in the last year. He's yet to even to drive it out of his driveway!

Sure, he's reinventing the wheel, he could have easily just went and bought a similar one and spent the past 10 years driving that on sundays.... But that's not the point is it? If building your pet project is your pride and joy, who are we to criticize?