First Big Partial Laid Down For This Weekend

[MVZOOM]

Troops - very excited, get to test my new mash tun. Here's what I've got:

85% - 3.4 kgs of Trad Ale
10% - 400gs of Wheat Malt
5% - 200gs of Amber Malt
1kg Med LME
100g of Amarillo pellets

Via Gerard at NDB. Have an American Ale liquid yeast ready too. Intend to do the following:

- Mash as close to 66deg w/ 10l of water
- Fly sparge with 20l of 78deg water (is that correct, or am I way off track)

What I need to sort out is:

- Hop addition schedule?
- How long should I boil for?
- How much liquid will I lose during the boil - I'd like to end up with 22-25l?

I believe that I'll get an OG of 1044 and FG of 1017, so it'll be quite a lite beer - which is fine. Any hints and tips?

Cheers - Mike

 

[MVZOOM]

DC82, being of Dutch extraction, I'm always on for a discount! However, that's a little OT for now, I think you'll agree - maybe start a new thread?

Cheers -Mike

 

[DrewCarey82]

Done have deleted the post sorry for post jacking.

Your one sounds like a toughy be interested to hear the results.

 

[MVZOOM]

Done have deleted the post sorry for post jacking.

Your one sounds like a toughy be interested to hear the results.

Cheers mate - trust me, if it's any good the whole world will hear about it! :beerbang:

T^hanks -Mike

 

[berazafi]

MV

If its your first partial any reason to fly sparge, why not just batch sparge

Batch sparging should be easier and less to worry about

Dave

 

[Stuster]

Mike

your mash schedule seems fine. The volume of water you will get depends on your system so it's hard to give advice on that. Just see how many litres you get in the kettle and then the fermenter and you can top up with water as needed.

Hops - I'm not sure of the AA rating of the hops you have, but 15g @ 60, 20g @ 15, 5 and 0 will be a reasonable starting point giving you around 35 IBUs. You could then dry hop with the last 25g, to taste.

Boil - I usually boil for 75 minutes or more. Give it 15 minutes after it gets to the boil, then add the first hops.

Loss - again it depends on your system, but something like 5-6 litres for a 75 minute boil. You'll also lose some wort in the transfer to your fermenter unless you just chuck it all in along with the cold and hot break. That'll be fine for your first go.

Anyway, it sounds like you have a handle on it all. Have fun.

 

[MVZOOM]

MV

If its your first partial any reason to fly sparge, why not just batch sparge

Batch sparging should be easier and less to worry about

Dave

Dave, having done neither, I'm of the opinion that fly sparging should be a little harder than batching, but if I get the flow in / flow out at the same rate, then it shouldn't be too difficult? I guess I want to go for the most efficiency possible (I know, first batch and I'm not meant to worry about efficiency) - if I stuff it up, then, hey, what the hell.

I'm going to build a fly sparger tonight, so will test the flow in / flow out tap settings and mark them on the taps. This will help, then all I have to worry about is sparge water temp.

Plus, once it's going, I can pretty much set and forget - go and feed the kids or whatever and let it do it's thing?

Mike

your mash schedule seems fine. The volume of water you will get depends on your system so it's hard to give advice on that. Just see how many litres you get in the kettle and then the fermenter and you can top up with water as needed.

Hops - I'm not sure of the AA rating of the hops you have, but 15g @ 60, 20g @ 15, 5 and 0 will be a reasonable starting point giving you around 35 IBUs. You could then dry hop with the last 25g, to taste.

Boil - I usually boil for 75 minutes or more. Give it 15 minutes after it gets to the boil, then add the first hops.

Loss - again it depends on your system, but something like 5-6 litres for a 75 minute boil. You'll also lose some wort in the transfer to your fermenter unless you just chuck it all in along with the cold and hot break. That'll be fine for your first go.

Anyway, it sounds like you have a handle on it all. Have fun.

Thanks Stuster - the AA% is 9.5 with the Amarillo pellets. I'm going to have to boil in two lots, as my pots arn't big enough to hold all that wort, so should I add in equal additions (ie.. split the hops along with the wort split) or can I do the additions in the first 15L and then boil the second 15L without?

Cheers - Mike

 

[Stuster]

Just split the hops between the batches. Not sure why really but makes sense to me and it's what I did for my first few AGs before I got a NASA burner. :wub:

Batch sparging is not really less efficient than fly sparging. My last four batches I got over 85% efficiency and I batch sparge. Have a look at sosman's figures on the difference in efficiency, following this link. He showed there was really no big difference in efficiency. The biggest difference he found was in the crush. Both methods are fine really, but if you don't have the sparge set up ready, just batch sparge.

 

[DrewCarey82]

MVZOOM what commercial beer is ur recipe similar too?

 

[DJR]

MVZOOM what commercial beer is ur recipe similar too?

Looks pretty similar to JS Golden Ale

 

[DrewCarey82]

Sounds good to me will be having a crack.

 

[MVZOOM]

Sounds good to me will be having a crack.

Yeah, this is all from Gerard at NDBrewing. I love the JS Amber Ale and this should come close-ish. Didn't happen on the weekend due to trouble in paradise (kids!), however should give it a crack tonight.

Just bought a 2400w immersion heater, so this will be used for the boil and heating HLT / Sparge water.

YAY!

Cheers -Mike

 

[DrewCarey82]

Mike how'd you go with this and how long did you mash for and what were your hop additions?

Cheers.

 

[MVZOOM]

Not done yet - too hard for the weekend, may try Sudnay.

Cheers - Mike

 

[DrewCarey82]

I am probably just going to do an 80 min boil, 15 minute sparge and 60 min boil.

 

[berazafi]

I am probably just going to do an 80 min boil, 15 minute sparge and 60 min boil.

What are you talking about

 

[Trough Lolly]

Mike

your mash schedule seems fine. The volume of water you will get depends on your system so it's hard to give advice on that. Just see how many litres you get in the kettle and then the fermenter and you can top up with water as needed.

Hops - I'm not sure of the AA rating of the hops you have, but 15g @ 60, 20g @ 15, 5 and 0 will be a reasonable starting point giving you around 35 IBUs. You could then dry hop with the last 25g, to taste.

Boil - I usually boil for 75 minutes or more. Give it 15 minutes after it gets to the boil, then add the first hops.

Loss - again it depends on your system, but something like 5-6 litres for a 75 minute boil. You'll also lose some wort in the transfer to your fermenter unless you just chuck it all in along with the cold and hot break. That'll be fine for your first go.

Anyway, it sounds like you have a handle on it all. Have fun.

Mike,
Further to Stuster's good info, may I suggest you have a go at First Wort Hopping?
Raise the initial bittering addition to around 18g and toss it into your empty kettle, so the hops soak in whilst you sparge the mash and send the sweet liquor to the kettle - you'll end up with a smoother bittering effect on the final product - have fun!

Cheers,
TL

 

[Trough Lolly]

I am probably just going to do an 80 min boil, 15 minute sparge and 60 min boil.

What are you talking about

Maybe that's an 80 minute mash :blink: , 15 min sparge and 60 min boil???

 

[berazafi]

QUOTE(berazafi @ Jul 5 2006, 01:17 PM)


QUOTE
I am probably just going to do an 80 min boil, 15 minute sparge and 60 min boil.


What are you talking about



Maybe that's an 80 minute mash , 15 min sparge and 60 min boil???

But that realy still doesnt give any information, what temp is the mash at, why would you limit you sparge to a time limit, and what temperature are you sparging at

 

[DrewCarey82]

Standard 65 degrees. 2.5 litres per kg

And I dont have the necessary setup to sparge properly.

So I just put 6 litres of water thats been heated to 82 degrees in with the grain back in my esky again for 15 mins then pour liquid in with my other collected liquids.

60 minute boil.

Start - 50g
30 mins - 25
10 mins - 25