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Restaurants don't need to go to the extent of a Taphouse, but they could try a LCPA or at the very least, something from Matilda Bay.

Most beer drinkers know them, and would "treat" themselves with a couple while eating out.
 
i walk out all the time. I don't like lager and get pissed off when there is 7 types of beer on a menu all of them lager or lager styles (pils,draught etc ), how hard is it to put an ale or stout on ?
 
chefsantos said:
i walk out all the time. I don't like lager and get pissed off when there is 7 types of beer on a menu all of them lager or lager styles (pils,draught etc ), how hard is it to put an ale or stout on ?
Very since they probably assume an ale is just another name for a beer and no idea what stout is ;)
 
You just have to talk to staff at restaurants. I sit down with my mate and we're sipping away on some beers, wit for her and orange brown for me. A mate of her's walks by and she invites him over for a drink, I recommend based on what he likes a prickly Moses red. If anything will inoffensively make an impact...
Anyway, talk goes on to matching drinks to food and this bartender proclaims that not much beer goes with much food since 'there is such a small range of flavours compared to the wines they keep'. Ahem, his restaurant actually keeps a decent range of beer. And I explain that there were 3 while years I didn't drink any alcohol but wine, and that his assertion is pretty shallow. Not convinced. Considering that guy wanted to try stuff and they keep a nice range and I know that they have taste training etc for staff, it is very obvious nobody bothers training them properly on the beers.

Might I suggest that part of the problem is the influx of French and Italian backpackers into the bar and restaurant industry. Combine that with ignorant teenage bar staff and there is fuckall appreciation for beer among the staff that work there.

Comparatively, kiwi and Aussie bar staff and especially ones that have worked bars in Europe seem to have a good idea of beer and what and how to serve. There I said it, wogs are killing beer in bars.
 
Florian said:
if you're already going down that route you might as well do it the proper way like Screwy and ask for tap water.

for all you know they might even have a higher margin on mineral water than beer, either way they'll be making a 'profit'.
You say that like there's something wrong with people making a profit on what they sell? I do get what you're saying though, it does come down to businesses serving what people want, it will take staff training - where I work there are an abundance of people that know nothing about anything we serve - food, wine, spirits and beer. Glorified checkout chicks really. Then again, the company that I work for don't give a shit.

There is a line to be trodden between profitability and serving good quality produce - including beer.

Let me put it this way - if you were to talk to your local restaurant, and ask them to stock something, they'd want to know you'll visit often enough to justify stocking something for you and the few. It's a matter of economics, not taste in my opinion.
 
Well it could be worse and it is. I'm at Etihad and all they have is Carlton mid, pure blonde or Cascade light.
I'm glad I brought a couple of home brews sitting back in the motel.
 
Never left due to beer list, but do find it extremely frustrating not being able to go out for a meal and enjoy a decent beer with it. We are only just starting to get a limited (better than the usual draught VB and Cascade light Corona) choice in a couple of venues.

I will pick a venue on their beer list often more than the food choice. I find if I can't pair a good meal with a good beer then I just don't enjoy the meal as much.

Craft beer drinkers may not necessarily leave because of the beer list but I am sure they are definitely attracted to a venue solely on their beer list.

Anyway my 2 cents
 
JDW81 said:
Are you saying you've never partaken in a few freebies at a function, irrespective of the brand?
Sure have, but I I make the best of the situation by picking the best available. My point was 98% of the drinking public if given the run of the bar will order Corona's because they usually have to pay $7 and therefore consider it a top drop. Nothing personal against Corona, just not my thang.
 
Pickaxe said:
You say that like there's something wrong with people making a profit on what they sell?
nah mate, you got that completely the wrong way. Reason i put 'profit' into '' was that, although they might technically make a profit on the drink they might not make a profit overall considering all their expenses.

what i was trying to say was, if you're already trying to show them that you're not just drinking any beer they have on offer and do that by order water instead, you're better off asking for tap water for free rather than pay for mineral water.
 
mmmyummybeer said:
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Craft beer drinkers may not necessarily leave because of the beer list but I am sure they are definitely attracted to a venue solely on their beer list.

Anyway my 2 cents
Probably sums it up. I have a liking for music that most don't like but won't ignore a joint 'cause they're playing.......dunno......Nora Jones? Is that what's still big in adult contemporary music?
 
Here in australia we have a lovely thing called BYO. It's pretty good.
Most of the time it's wine only, but that's okay because I enjoy wine as much as I do beer, and as SWMBO doesn't touch beer, I'm happy to enjoy a nice glass of $10ish tightarse white.
I always have a few beers in the fridge for when we get home. Yay!
 
Well it could be worse and it is. I'm at Etihad and all they have is Carlton mid, pure blonde or Cascade light.
I'm glad I brought a couple of home brews sitting back in the motel.

Wow 4 years later and hasn't things changed. You can even get fat yak and pacific yak at Etihad which is what we drink when we go to the footy. And just about every restaurant has at least one Craft beer on the menu. Sometimes it might just be LC or JS or even fat yak but at least you can get more than Carlton Draught or VB.
 
Call me picky but it shits me no end when they have all 3 yak beers on tap like "that covers off the craft beer drinkers". Last time i saw that i had a crown lager and loved it.
 
We occasionally eat at the local brewpub. I prefer to order an entree an save my gut for the beer. That, and I dont go much on their food anyway.
Alternatively we'll eat at a the BYO Thai place and I take my own beer. Or a chilled bottle of Finlandia and a shot glass. Oh, you should see the expressions on the other diners faces when that frosty bottle hits the table!
An alternative to that alternatively I'll get a nice glow up before we leave. This addresses two main issues.
One, dining with children is never a relaxed affair. Now I dont care as much if they bang their cutlery and torment one another.
Two, fucked if I'm paying $8 a pop for an 'imported' (or around $6 domestic) beer that I would normally never go near with any more frequency than necessary.
I've known a few people in the restaurant game. Its tough. But **** you if you think I'm helping out with the rent while you pay your staff minimum wage and jack the grog up 150%.
 
I've never left once sitting down But I def choose based on what I see . the food has to be be pretty fricken good for me to go back if the beer list was shit
 
We went to the hunter valley recently, and browsed a couple of places for a feed.

Ended up at a place and the food was quite good, with a couple of beers on tap. Had a pretty awesome bar setup actually.

The $9-$12 a beer annoyed me in the usual way, but when after a little questioning the chap informed me that all they would sell a beer in was a ‘schmiddy’, and appeared to know **** all about beer but carried on about the three thousand wines they had,I was ******* spewing.

What the fark is that. What about a proper schooner, just like I can get at home.....
 

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