Do You Plan Breaks From Alcohol?

[lonte]

now there's a good sig line!

 

[lonte]

That is not true. The liver does repair itself (unless of course you have already abused it to the state of cirrhosis). In actual fact you can have 80% of your liver removed and it will grow back to its original size.

Does it actually grow back, or is it just that we can function with only 20% of it remaining? Case of over-engineering I think rather than mystical regenerative powers.

 

[Kai]

The liver grows back. It's like a starfish but far more useful.

 

[Mr Bond]

Here is a link to a 10 min medical show segment that pretty much answers all the questions and topics raised in this thread.Well worth the viewing time(even if the host is high on the Cheese factor).

** edit to remove dodgy link**

After viewing this I think I will be giving my liver a month of PO MO style and the introducing monday to thursday AFD's.

Dave

 

[PostModern]

Cheers Dave. It's handy when other people find the sorts of things I should be posting to back up my arguments

I had issues opening that link in Firefox. I disected the aspx it links to and found if you copy mms://a1077.v206347.c20634.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1077/20634/v001/hstreams.download.akamai.com/20634/liver_disease/liver_alcohol_320.asf into IE, it launches media player with the webcast. Your link is probably fine if you use IE.

EDIT: can't get the url tags to work for the mms: URL. It keeps adding http: to the front which wrecks stuff. Sorry for the long ugly URL.

 

[Mr Bond]

Sorry about that!

Try this link

,and then clicK on the Alcohol and your liver video link.

 

[The Rebel]

I did once it was the worst 23 mins of my life

 

[pint of lager]

Alcohol is a drug with some very nice side effects and some very nasty side effects.

Spend some time and research the long and short term effects. Make an informed choice on your consumption level. Don't just stick your head in the sand and say no-one told me it could make me fight, make me snore, destroy my relationships, kill me. If you spend 10 hours on AHB this month working out your brewing schedule, put 10% of that effort into researching the bad side effects of alcohol.

I am off to sit on the sidelines with PoMo.

 

[warrenlw63]

Far out. <_<

Could we maybe have a separate forum section where the moral minority can cathart out of everybody else's face?

Jezuz H. Plenty of soaks around who get by perfectly well vomiting on the couch and slapping their missus without making their own beer. Go patronise CUB or similar they create more drunks than us.

We read this forum because we like our hobby. Not to hear guilty arse-bleedings. h34r:

Fingers crossed this thread will fizzle out if's own accord.

Warren -

 

[bugwan]

I popped along to the Doc this morning for an immunisation (off overseas soon) and also organised a cholesterol & liver function test (I'm 30, so best to know young). I'll know the results by Wednesday, but I am very interested in the liver function results.
The Doctor only ordered it once I told him I was a homebrewer! I usually have two days off a week, but that doesn't always happen... mostly a single day off a week. Then again, the most I've drunk in a session for the past year would be 10 standard drinks (which sounds a lot, but I hardly felt a thing h34r: )

I also asked him what he thought about extended breaks from drinking (similar to PoMo's abstinence) and he was non-committal. He suggested it was good to drink in moderation all the time (never more than 4 drinks at a time :blink: ) than drink heavily and take time off, but didn't say it was better either way.


EDIT: Just read Warren's post above... Sorry to keep this thread in circulation mate. I quite agree with some of your sentiments and can't quite work out what possessed me to write the post above!
The vast majority of brewers on this site seem to love their beer for its quality, not its quantity...

 

[warrenlw63]

Nah cool Bugwan. I'm sure every person who subscribes to this forum is the master of their own destiny. Some just look for somebody to reassure them they're doing the right thing.

Mate I know I am. I must be excused AFD today. I'm not seeing the world too well. :lol:

Warren -

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I have a good friend who is a publican, he is in his 50's, and naturally he drinks most days.

His doctor told him that it was better for him to drink moderatly every day, rather than binge on weekends. Apparantly the blokes who write themselves of on the weekends to far more damage than those who drink steadily.Something to do the liver being able to handle regular moderate drinking, rather than trying to process huge amounts in one hit

 

[chimera]

Second that Duacti

I drink water by day and beer by night, exercise regularly and despite my predilection to longnecks am much more healthy now than before I started brewing.

Maybe a new thread could be started - how to work habitual drinking into a healthy lifestyle!

 

[Darren]

Not being one who lets a thread die unless I killed it 8).

Reading AHB at home is also a form of neglect/abuse that can be used against you too

Just watch ya backs guys. The saying hell has no fury like a woman scorned is certainly true!!

cheers

Darren

 

[MVZOOM]

And good point lonte, if you can stop for a month, it's proof positive you're not an alcy.

Gidday mate, this isn't exctly true. There are two kinds of alchoholics, the first is compelled to drink at regular intervals and feels bad if they don't. The second can withstand not drinking for any amount of time - but when presented with the oppurtunity, finds it very difficult to stop at one or two - or ten.

My father deals with drugs and alcohol on a daily basis, with his work. I went to him about a year ago and explained that I was positive I was an alchoholic - he spent 30mins questioning me about habits etc and we came to the conclusion that I was having a couple of beers to relax - that's all.

Anyway, I reckon a break is always a good thing - I'm on an AFD tonight (have a pilsner mashing behind me!) and through the rest of the week.

Cheers - Mike

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

An Alcoholic is the same as a Heroin addict

They will always have the craving, and they find they cant live without it. And even after they have a long break, it takes very little to get them back into the spiral


You can be addicted to Alcohol the same as you can be addicted to Heroin.

They are both drugs.Both addictive drugs.



My name is Ducatiboy, and I am addicted to mashing... h34r:

 

[johnno]

My name is Ducatiboy, and I am addicted to mashing... h34r:

My name is johnno and I am addicted to the smell of the mash, boil and hops.

 

[Linz]

My name is johnno and I am addicted to the smell of the mash, boil and hops.

Try doing your job of servicing extinguishers at the Mobil servo at Camperdown while "Chuck" is mashing next door at the Malt Shovel!!!
Then ringing another AHB member to see if hes working just so you 'might' be able to 'drop in' to say gday

My name is Linz and IM addicted........just like johnno

 

[Franko]

Try doing your job of servicing extinguishers at the Mobil servo at Camperdown while "Chuck" is mashing next door at the Malt Shovel!!!
Then ringing another AHB member to see if hes working just so you 'might' be able to 'drop in' to say gday

My name is Linz and IM addicted........just like johnno

I'll third that motion

Franko

 

[petesbrew]

SWMBO thought of a great idea last week to help us both have more AFD's.
Monday to Wednesday are AFD's, unless something's on.
If we feel like we need a drink, it's $5 in the jar, to be put towards eating out at restaurants.

I reckon we'll be dining out quite a bit from now on.