Cooper's Wheat + Wheat Malt Suggestions

[Jaeger]

As soon as the weather cools down, I had planned to make a wheat beer using:

* 1.7kg can of Thomas Coopers Brewmaster Selection Wheat Beer
* 1kg can of Morgan's Master Brew Wheat Malt
* Safale K-97 yeast

I've since read comments on the forums that K-97 is more like a Kolsch yeast, and might be disappointing in a wheat beer.
Has anyone tried making a similar brew with K-97?

(Plan B would be to add some "Witty" flavourings to compensate for the lack of esters from the yeast.)

 

[bugwan]

Hi Jaeger,

If it's a German (Bavarian) wheat you're after, you can't go past Wyeast #3068 (Weihenstephan Weizen). It makes a superb beer and will create those estery/phenolic characteristics you're looking for - banana, clove etc.

Your current selection of K-97 is also fine, but strictly speaking is better for Belgian Wheat beers, creating lower esters. There's no real way to capture banana esters other than yeast choice, but you can suspend a small amount of orange rind and coriander in the fermenter after a day or two of fermenting (in a nylon bag) to help the flavours along.

 

[mika]

K97 will work fine, you could also try re-culturing a Coopers Pale Ale yeast. It can be fairly estery, or so I'm told.
I've used US-56 (or whatever it's called now), but it produces a fairly clean sorta wheat beer. Though not all the flavour in a wheat is from the yeast, a lot of it's just the wheat and the way it ferments.

 

[Paleman]

As soon as the weather cools down, I had planned to make a wheat beer using:

* 1.7kg can of Thomas Coopers Brewmaster Selection Wheat Beer
* 1kg can of Morgan's Master Brew Wheat Malt
* Safale K-97 yeast

I've since read comments on the forums that K-97 is more like a Kolsch yeast, and might be disappointing in a wheat beer.
Has anyone tried making a similar brew with K-97?

(Plan B would be to add some "Witty" flavourings to compensate for the lack of esters from the yeast.)

Heres a cracker kit Weizen.

Morgans Golden Sheaf Can.

1 kilo of dried Wheat Malt.

20 grams of freshly crushed Coriander. ( i'd go 25 or 30 ).

Jar of orange or mandarine, marmalade........mine was with ginger. Or the rhind of 4 Oranges, grated without pith.,or the peelings of 4 Mandarines, oven dried.

Wyeast 3056.

Cracker of a beer. :super:

 

[mika]

Liquid yeasts do make a big difference to a wheat beer

 

[Paleman]

Forgot to mention you can finish off with Hallertau hops........Luverly !!!

 

[bconnery]

If for whatever reason you can't or don't use liquid for this one ferment the k97 warm 22-28C to start to get towards the flavours you desire.

I entered a beer in a comp once fermented with k97 and the judges comments stated that I should have put it in the wheat class, when it contained no wheat at all...

 

[Jaeger]

Thanks for the feedback (and apologies for the late reply.)

For this brew I've opted to just make a "clean" wheat beer with the ingredients on hand (Coopers Wheat Beer + Morgans Wheat Malt + K-97 yeast) to see how it goes; I'll tinker with future brews to taste.

The starting temperature is 24 deg. C, which is the top of the recommended range and should help boost the ester production a bit. It's the coldest starting temperature I've managed to date, so with winter approaching brewing a proper lager is looking good!

 

[Brewtus]

Can anyone advise how

1 tin coopers wheat beer
1 tin mogan's amber malt extract
safale k-97 will go?

 

[petesbrew]

On another note, does anyone have any ideas on what to put with a can of Cascade Spicy Ghost Draught?
It's supposed to be "wheat inspired", but a lot of guys think otherwise...

 

[Brewtus]

On another note, does anyone have any ideas on what to put with a can of Cascade Spicy Ghost Draught?
It's supposed to be "wheat inspired", but a lot of guys think otherwise...

1.5 kg light malt liquid extract (coopers)
250ml strong flavoured honey
us 05 yeast.

I have done spicy ghost honey ale three times and, except for one over carbonation, all where good.

 

[petesbrew]

1.5 kg light malt liquid extract (coopers)
250ml strong flavoured honey
us 05 yeast.

I have done spicy ghost honey ale three times and, except for one over carbonation, all where good.

Mmm... sounds nice