Coopers Celebration Ale/british Pale Ale Recipe

[JakeSm]

Isn't there a spec malt called cara-munich which can just be steeped?

Yes there is, and thanks for not talking complete crap "simpefisherman" lol.

 

[bum]

You mean a completely different malt called something else? Good pick-up. He really saved your arse there.

Munich is base malt and unequivocally saying that it doesn't need to be mashed is complete crap.

Both light and dark munich have enough diastatic power to completely convert. In fact both can be used at up to 100% of the grist. You are talking complete crap.

 

[JakeSm]

So BUM are you going to add anything of value to my post or are you just going to cause **** with me, wait i mean complete crap???

I am simply asking for advice on a recipe and not trying to get into an argument about different types of munich malt and what they can or can not be used for or how they can be used.

We all have our own styles we like and our own ways in which we brew them, you are right with what you are saying mate and not once did i dissagree with you, but i have my own ways of brewing my types of beer and this is what you are failing to understand. Please read up a few posts and stop letting your big head full of knowledge get in my way.

If you have any opinions on the post/recipe please go ahead and post them, however if you wish to cause more complete crap/**** with me ill just pretend i never read it and hopefully not get any dumber from your posts as you must just be looking for an argument, and not to actually help out a fellow brewer.

As i was saying, i do a mash with nearly all of my brews, but adding whole or cracked grain of any type to a cup of hot water even, will give you some aromas in which the palate can notice in a beer. If it didnt then why would brewcraft place these instuctions on the back of their grain packets???

I am over this trying to prove right or wrong **** so please either offer advice or go away, there are plenty of other fellow brewers that would love to help another out.

Cheers jake

 

[bum]

I hope you like your beer.

I also hope you stop telling people things that aren't true.

I also hope you get some perspective and realise you're accusing me of a great many things that I have not done here.

 

[sama]

"Requires" as in "required by law"?

Then, yeah, you're probably right. But munich is a base malt not a spec malt.

At the end of the day, steeping base malt is essentially the same thing as mashing but please do try not to talk complete crap.

jeez did he kill ya dog or something mate? bit harsh isn't it?

 

[bum]

How so? It is completely to false to say that it doesn't need mashing if you're hoping to make beer from it.

He goes on to say that dark munich needs to be mashed with malt with surplus diastatic power. This is also completely false.

"Crap" is the only word for it. Well, that is not true. "Crap" is the most polite word for it I could manage. How is a correction on a factual matter being taken so personally by anyone? Is it because we're not supposed to swear any more so now "crap" is some horrible taboo?

 

[sama]

I know not what gripe/agenda you have with the system/rules,just thought a simple correction without any abuse towards the poster seemed a bit fairer.

 

[bum]

I made no comment at all about his use of pearl. I feel like I was being particularly restrained.

I thank you for you deciding to take me under your wing. I feel like a better person now. I hope you don't resort to making any sort of personally based comments on this fine forum. Because that might be seen as somewhat ironic by some. Maybe just me.

 

[sama]

I'm glad you feel better mate.take care.cheers

 

[JakeSm]

Im over your sh*t BUM, or is that the best way of calling yourself an *******. Please post something of interest or nothing at all.

When did i say i was going to make a beer out of munich malt.....NEVER!!!! I simply said i was going to use the raw grain to add colour and aroma.
If i was going to make a beer out of munich malt i would, but since im not please take your F***ing useless points elsewhere unless your going to add something of use to me or any other fellow brewers reading this post and thinking about having a go at a beer like this and trying not to get dumber by all the bullsh*t they have to decifer.

Cheers and happy brewing BUM.

P.s i am terribly sorry if i have offended anyone else other than BUM with my post and i hope some people can gather some helpful advice from other brewers who are actually posting it on this post.

Cheers jake.


P.s.s thanks alot sama, we should meet up and do a swap or something??

 

[bum]

When did i say i was going to make a beer out of munich malt.....NEVER!!!! I simply said i was going to use the raw grain to add colour and aroma.

I don't think you understand what you are talking about. In fact I know that you don't because what you are saying is not what is occurring in your beer.

It is you who is talking nonsense here, mate, and the only reason I posted initially (and continue to post now) is because this is a beginner forum and beginners should not accept the complete nonsense you are posting.

I regret to inform you that you are getting fermentables from the munich. I have further regret in informing you that you do not understand any of the process you're undertaking. Please re-read my posts. You can ignore the word "crap" if that's what you're hung up on - change it to "technically false" if you like.

When you "steep" base grain as you would a spec grain you are essentially mashing anyway (as I mentioned in my first post). Doesn't mean it is correct to say that it doesn't need mashing. It certainly isn't correct that munich is lacking in diastase. And I didn't touch on this but I really hope no-one follows your advice that soup ingredients are a suitable substitute for biscuit malt.

 

[JakeSm]

I am not saying that the pearl barley is a substitute for biscuit malt, i am saying that when you roast it as i do and add it to the last 30 mins of your mash, it will give you similar flavours as biscuit. Such as slight nutty and bready flavours.

This is what i do for my beers and they have all been exceptional so far and i am not trying to convince brewers to use this product i am just saying i use it as an extra ingredient in my mash. This is not needed for any of my recipes i just use it as it was an experiment once that turned out to work quite nicely.

I have had feedback on other brewers that have tried my idea with barley as an extra and all has been good.

Why do you keep picking at me mate, just leave me alone and stop posting on here. I am not even looking at doing this beer anymore so all interest is lost.

You are welcome to offer some useful advice on my other posts on new recipe ideas if you can try to be friendly.

Cheers jake.