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'battle Of The Toucans'

Discussion in 'Kits & Extracts' started by boingk, 23/5/07.

 

  1. Jet01

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    Posted 1/8/19
    This is a bit of a combo post that i’ll put in both threads for the stout novice.

    My second batch of beer ever was a coopers stout kit and kilo. Used the kit and bag of ESB stout booster. Started drinking it after 3 weeks in the bottle and was finished the whole batch at the 4week mark. The last few bottles were a lot better than the first few. Lesson learnt to be as patient as you can to get the best taste out of your stout.

    I also made a toucan last month. Coopers stout/dark ale with 1kg brown sugar, M42 yeast. 2carb drops per long neck.

    13days in the primary
    26days in the bottle.

    I ran out of home brew after I took a case away with me on a camping trip, so was forced to buy some off the shelf stuff. I bought a case of cooper Best Extra stout, which was the beer that inspired me to start home brewing.

    I was surprised that I really didn’t like the taste of the BES anymore, tasted like a burnt mess.

    I prefer the toucan that I made and will be doing what I can to make more in the future so I don’t have to buy the commercial stuff.

    It’s really bitter which I like, but doesn’t seem to taste as burnt as the BES. I’m thinking the sweetness from the brown sugar has taken some of that out.

    I’m going to make another Stout/Dark Ale toucan next batch, but with 500g LDM instead of the brown sugar. See how that goes...

    Thanks for all the tips and tricks so far. It’s been great.
     
  2. Jet01

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    Posted 17/8/19
    I’ve noticed that all of my toucans seem to have this weird taste in common, i’m sure it’s not an infection, and have had my mates taste it.

    I’m a newbie and have only been using coopers kits.

    I’ve made the following toucans so far. With the youngest being 27days in the bottle.

    I’ve made:
    stout/dark ale with 1kg brown sugar
    Sparkling/real ale with 500 LDM
    APA/Lager with 1kg BE2.

    Best out of the bunch is the APA/lager I reckon. All are pretty average.

    Fermented all 3 for at least 14 days in the fermenter and then bottled with 2 carb drops in longneck bottles.

    I’m assuming they’re all way too bitter and that’s the common theme.

    Has anyone else noticed anything similar?
     
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    Posted 17/8/19
    It's going to have a higher bitterness because you are using 2 cans of extract which are both designed to have a level of bitterness from 1 can to suit the style. If you want a lower level of bitterness you will need to use 1 can of hopped extract and 1 can of unhopped extract.

    Rather than using carb drops, just boil up 6 grams of sugar per litre in a small amount of water and add it to your ferment vessel / bottling vessel and then fill your bottles. Make sure the sugar mixture is properly mixed in before bottling.

    You should really boil the whole volume of water and all of your ingredients (if you are not). Some people don't think so, but I recommend it.
     
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    Posted 18/8/19
    Thanks for the tip.

    Will boiling the water and ingredients change the flavour?
     
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    Posted 18/8/19
    No. Just safeguards against introducing an infection to you wort.
     
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    As stevonz points out, it is a precautionary measure.

    If you get into steeping specialty grains, you only boil the liquid after removing the grains.

    Check out John Palmer's free online book "How To Brew".
     
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    Posted 26/8/19
    just finished the last of a toucan blackntan this weekend, came out way better than i expected

    it was coopers dark ale and stout with i kilo dextrose and the 2 packets of yeast that came with the cans, a month in the fermenter

    i knew i'd got it right when a lad i know from county mayo in ireland said after the first mouthful " dats orright dat is" high praise from one brought up on the real stuff....after a couple more he pronounced it as good a stout as he'd had, none of the bitterness of commercial brews, very smooth and 'thick' with a beatiful dark amber head that stays to the bottom of the glass

    both he and another friend have commissioned me to brew for them to buy but i think i'll stick to giving it away

    now we shall have to wait and see what the lamington beer comes out - coopers lager, cocoa powder, vanilla extract ( the expensive paste stuff, not the thin cheap liquid version, just don't tell mrs spotty thats where her good cake making vanilla went...) and toasted dessicated coconut
     

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