Australia Is A Nation Full Of Binge Drinkers

[hough]

Edit: not to mention the other public servants who are women who dress in black and grey, usually forty something and talk with a certain accent. For example they don't have a mobile phone, they have a moybile foyn, and when they don't know something they say "I doynt knoy" . Listen and you will know what I mean. A whole cohort of politically correct, many of them lesbians, who wouldn't know what a good binge drink is.

I have listened and I know EXACTLY what you mean :lol: :lol: . They will never understand the plight of the homebrewer... As Manticle said we're all here to rebel against the taxes on alcohol anyway... ... and to binge drink...

Obviously getting wasted seven nights a week is not great for your health, but these guidelines are based on a worst case scenario. No doctor or specialist fully understands the complete affects of alcohol on the human body, so they assume all the most negative possibilities, and also assume that you are highly intolerant to alcohol and weight 45kilos. It's the same way that they lower spped limits because a select few can't handle a car at those speeds...

Nothing is really likely to change anytime soon; private citizens, the alchol producers and even the government are just too comfortable. Plus we live in a country where we have a sovereign right to drink as much as we want to, for better or worse. They shouldn't change anything just because a bunch of idiots drink and get themselves into shit, or can't handle their drink in the first place. If you stop the idiots from drinking, then they'll just find some other way to mess their lives up. The biggest thing I fear is that one day homebrewing will be a black market hobby


I've been wasted at pubs more times than I can possibly remember and i've never felt the need to start a fight or to try and drive home smashed. If we keep ourselves in check, then alcohol would not cause nearly as problems as it does.

 

[bum]

No doctor or specialist fully understands the complete affects of alcohol on the human body

Yeah they do. But even if they didn't they'd have a better idea than you.

wtf?

Been binge drinking this evening if anyone is wondering where my allegiances might lie (if posting here in the first place might have not been a hint).

 

[hough]

Yeah they do. But even if they didn't they'd have a better idea than you.

Well obviously they would know more than me, the dog ate my medical degree... I was just adding it as food for thought that these guidelines are very pessimistic and that they are based on an 'almost' worst case scenairio outlook. In fact they have to be; when you look at a medical study the results are always given in terms of population sizes, percentages of people who got the expected result and the possible reasons why. No two people are completely alike, so medicine can't be an exact science. Even if the doctors did know it all, the the results still can't be exact either. No disrepect to all those hardworking docs who have studied for many years, but any science based around statistics forbids you from knowing an exact answer; that I do know B)

 

[bum]

Do you also know that by assuming that statistics are the only basis for their assessment you look like a cock? *insert inappropriate smilie here so people may think I am joking or something, I'm not sure really*

 

[hough]

Do you also know that by assuming that statistics are the only basis for their assessment you look like a cock? *insert inappropriate smilie here so people may think I am joking or something, I'm not sure really*

Statistics aren't the only way they make assessments (OBVIOUSLY), I never said that. The facts that are known in medicine are based around very solid theory, just like engineering or physics. What I did say was that those theories affect different people to different degrees. If you can prove me wrong then please show me some evidence and I will kiss your feet. But if you only want to fight then go to your local; i'm sure there will be a member of this binge drinking culture ready to brawl with you. And we all know that fighting on the internet is like the special olympics; even if you win, you're still retarted. So I declare and give you the win.

You know this is my first time posting here and I joined up because this website seems to be full of people pooling together their knowledge and good will to make the world a better place for home brewers. I wasn't trying to be a smart arse before, just trying to give my opinion and this is how my first impression of this site will be remembered... Thanks mate.

 

[Brewer_010]

This is all a bit like the tobacco thing, it is a poison / toxin to the body therefore is no good for you in the view of the drug / health researchers. Bear in mind too that many GPs smoke and drink too much .

But it's a pretty well established fact that alcohol is bad for you in high doses - get over it.

I think moderation is the key. Life will kill us all but enjoy it while you have it.

Back to brewing...

 

[wabster]

The sad fact is that we have a substantial number of bureaucrats at state and national level, whose whole "raison d'etre" is to set themselves up with a job for life, or at least a career term :-(

These are the very people, mentioned in earlier posts, who have very little in common with the broad range of Australians definable as average.

All these suggested limits are for the lowest common denominator, also mentioned or implied above.

Just wait for these limits to be imposed on bar staff, by either law or as part of the required RSA certificate training, so that anyone serving a customer more than the "maximum daily limit" is committing an offence.

Meanwhile there will be a cadre of "public servants" necessary to draft rules, administer them and look for more rules to introduce. It's one of the basic laws of bureaucracy to self-perpetuate and grow.

It's not only drinkers that are the targets either.

I read an indignant letter to the SMH by a "law abiding" person who was treated like a crim when stopped for an RB Test. Seems the copper was downright rude in telling her that the unrestrained dog in the car was illegal, and could cost her a significant fine and loss of 3 demerit points. FFS why can't governments realise you can't legislate common sense? All you end up with is unintended consequences like criminalising a huge % of the population.

It's not too great a leap from that situation to one where no one gives a toss about laws generally knowing you are always going to be doing something wrong and just do what you want, and hang the expense.

And that's why we binge drink, because no one gives a toss about the petty bureaucratic advisories, rules and regulations So we ignore the bloody lot!

Cheerz Wabster.

 

[bonj]

I love it when public servants get blamed for government policy.... like they all get changed over with a change of government. Half of them couldn't give a stuff what the government wants, but they do it because... well it's a good way of earning a crust. When their flexi-time is up for the day they all run off to the pub, or shuffle home on the public transport like everyone else... and do all the stuff everyone else does.

It's government that makes policy... not the bureaucrats. Most of the animosity towards public servants is jealousy over their job stability and working conditions. They trade in the high earning potential of private enterprise for that... It's funny watching all the greedy capitalists flock to the public service looking for jobs when the economy goes down the toilet....

Back on topic.... It's only binge drinking if you stop.

 

[Metal_Gman]

http://www.chemcases.com/alcohol/alc-07.htm

With respect to alcohol, this means drinking large quantities of alcohol over many years. It has been estimated (Mazey et al., 1988) that in men the dose needed would be 600 kilograms taken chronically. This is equivalent to 72 oz of beer, 1 liter of wine, or 5 or 6 standard drinks (1.5oz) daily for 20 years.

72 US fluid ounces = 2.12929413 litres

 

[chappo1970]

I love it when public servants get blamed for government policy.... like they all get changed over with a change of government. Half of them couldn't give a stuff what the government wants, but they do it because... well it's a good way of earning a crust. When their flexi-time is up for the day they all run off to the pub, or shuffle home on the public transport like everyone else... and do all the stuff everyone else does.

It's government that makes policy... not the bureaucrats. Most of the animosity towards public servants is jealousy over their job stability and working conditions. They trade in the high earning potential of private enterprise for that... It's funny watching all the greedy capitalists flock to the public service looking for jobs when the economy goes down the toilet....

Back on topic.... It's only binge drinking if you stop.

Communist!

 

[Beer&Kebab]

Poofter little public servants who make Godwin Grech look like Hulk Hogan, little dried up men with names like Tarquin and Jeremy

My name happens to be Jeremy.. I take offense to what you make of my name. I am a beer brewing/drinking kind of bloke who doesn't need this kind of crap.. I used to like you Michael.. How dare you....

 

[bonj]

Tarquin Fim Bim Bim Bim Bus Stop Fetang Fetang Ole Biscuit Barrel happens to be a good friend of mine.....

A little silly though.

 

[Bizier]

A whole cohort of politically correct, many of them lesbians, who wouldn't know what a good binge drink is.

Man, you obviously don't know as many lesbians as I do...
I know chicks that will drink me under the table and then leave for the pub.