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malt & barley blues said:
You forgot to mention Weal 50,000 years ago without the capitalists, it should be pointed out there was no welfare for the sick lame and lazy, no free hospital, no pensions, and subsidised housing so there is a lot to thank the capitalists for.
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Yes, the reason for the absence of hospitals, pensions and negative gearing on residential property during the upper paleolithic era was the shortage of capitalists. If we fast-forward over 40 000 years to the beginnings of capitalism and it's subsequent forms, you won't find links between the delivery of the social services you listed and capitalists. Which forms of capitalism were you referring to in your post?
 
A very recent dev

malt & barley blues said:
That would be the Benevolent Capitalist Society.
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A very recent development and still more of an idea than a practice in the broad scheme of things. It has nothing to do with the position you took in your original post.
 
malt & barley blues said:
What position would that be?
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This one.

malt & barley blues said:
it should be pointed out there was no welfare for the sick lame and lazy, no free hospital, no pensions, and subsidised housing so there is a lot to thank the capitalists for.
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And, there was no welfare state until Sir William Beveridge got the ball rolling so whats your point, don't tell me you think its thanks to your socialist party.
 
A+ thread gents, haven't read one as entertaining as this for a while. Shame I can't give it 5 stars on the mobile.
 
malt & barley blues said:
And, there was no welfare state until Sir William Beveridge got the ball rolling so whats your point, don't tell me you think its thanks to your socialist party.
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Trickle down the pants party.
 
malt & barley blues said:
And, there was no welfare state until Sir William Beveridge got the ball rolling so whats your point, don't tell me you think its thanks to your socialist party.
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Dirty socialists we would be better off with you're party & no one else to question you're greedy rights

After all its you're right to manage no matter what is'nt it
 
so glad slaves ( workers) decided to say F%#K you Master and give me some of what you've got as without us you have squat.

May have had a few :drinks: But I say workers are as, IF NOT MORE, important than the slave owner who wants ALL the profit for him/her self . they have no product without the worker

There has to be an equilibrium between the two.

God is the biggest slave owner of us all :lol:

OOPS.
 
"It is not in the stars to hold our destiny but ourselves"

If there were no capitalists to keep the masses gainfully employed, that would mean we wouldn't have to pay tax. :)
If we didn't make tax contributions then the first things to go would be welfare, then the hospitals and schools. :huh:
Whatever government funding could be scraped together would be going towards the police and military forces. :ph34r:

So thank goodness (not God) there are people willing to invest their own hard earned money into industry to keep those of us who want to work, in a job.
 

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