Hey all, looking for some advice on plate chillers. As a foreword I'm well aware of sanitation concerns, clogging and so forth with plate chillers, I'm not looking for advice on why I should be using other types of chillers. Apologies for being blunt but after looking at other threads, this seems to be the way they head pretty quickly. I've been having a look around lately at the different types of plate chillers for home brewers and have a few questions for anyone that has experience or advice on those available. Again to help keep convo on track, I'm not in the market for a Therminator as it's a bit pricey or the Keg King version as I'm after threaded outlets, not the barbed version......bit of a shame as that would have been perfect! I live in Melbourne so water temp is quite cold year round and I will mostly be doing 21L batches with the occasional double running through it. First question was if anyone has a 7-9" long 30 plate chiller and how these go with chilling capability? I want to do one pass to fermenter and avoid recircing back to kettle. Secondly has any one purchased one of Ali Express? There are a lot of different models, unfortunately not to many longer versions, most around 9" long. However you can pick up 30-40 plate chillers for a reasonable price so I'm leaning that way for the moment. Other question was regarding Duda Diesel chillers and how they stack up with their price + shipping. I gather the quality is there and the variations are plenty, although they seem a little costly getting them over to Aus. Any thoughts or experience would be appreciated. Cheers all!