Washing Bottles In Dishwasher

[Truman42]

Ive read a few posts about washing bottles in a dishwasher but no one mentions if you should use the dishwasher tablets or not?
Im not sure whats in them and if they will help clean and sanitise your bottles or not. The house we've just moved into has a dishwasher with a hygiene wash setting. My bottles are all rinsed and soaked in warm water after drinking then sat to dry, so I was going to give them a wash on the hygiene setting in the dishwasher before using them.

 

[Rowy]

Ive read a few posts about washing bottles in a dishwasher but no one mentions if you should use the dishwasher tablets or not?
Im not sure whats in them and if they will help clean and sanitise your bottles or not. The house we've just moved into has a dishwasher with a hygiene wash setting. My bottles are all rinsed and soaked in warm water after drinking then sat to dry, so I was going to give them a wash on the hygiene setting in the dishwasher before using them.

I'd still santize before bottling mate if I was you. As for the dishwasher not sure.

 

[Truman42]

Okay with starsan or defender (which is what i brought from G&G) does it only have a certain mileage?

EG Can you pour some in one bottle, swirl then tip it into the next and so on or do you need to use a fresh dose in each bottle?

 

[MaltyHops]

Okay with starsan or defender (which is what i brought from G&G) does it only have a certain mileage?
EG Can you pour some in one bottle, swirl then tip it into the next and so on or do you need to use a fresh dose in each bottle?

This is pretty much what I do. I put about a cup of diluted Terminator
(phos acid based sanitiser) into a stainless steel milk jug that has just
the right spout lip to channel fluid into a bottle opening really well and
quickly, turn the bottle sideways and rotate a few times so the inside
gets a good cover, then tip out back into jug - good for a doz bottles
or so. Seems to work - I think enough sanitiser gets left behind to do
their job.

I wouldn't use a dishwasher for brewing bottles - they can get pretty
groddy and I wouldn't trust them to rinse the inside of bottles properly.
The tablets probably wouldn't be good for head retention either - they
are designed for cleaning grease and stuff after all.

T.

 

[JDW81]

Okay with starsan or defender (which is what i brought from G&G) does it only have a certain mileage?

EG Can you pour some in one bottle, swirl then tip it into the next and so on or do you need to use a fresh dose in each bottle?

I just use a bottle washer with about 500mL of no rinse sanitising solution. I've washed 50+ bottles in one go and never had an infection (touch wood).

I wouldn't bother with the dishwasher myself as my bottle washing system (rinse well after use and sanitise before filling) is easy as.

JD

 

[Malted]

Do you guys not use one of these?


They are the best thing since sliced bread (as far a bottling is concerned). You put the starsan solution etc in the bowl and press the inverted bottle down onto the central spring loaded pin. This delivers a squirt of sanitiser into the bottle that drains back into the bowl. Plunge several times and bung the bottle onto a drying rack (or bread crate etc). You get into a routine and it doesn't take long.
HEAPS quicker than filling bottles and transferring to the next bottle.


I always double rinse bottles after consumption. On bottling day I soak my bottles in the bath tub in hot sodium perc and scrub them as neccessary. Drain into bath, plunge onto the above doobey a couple of times and then onto a draning rack. I have a production line going with sitting on a crate between the tub and the drying racks. Any spills are easy to clean off the tiled floor too.

 

[JDW81]

Do you guys not use one of these?
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They are the best thing since sliced bread (as far a bottling is concerned). You put the starsan solution etc in the bowl and press the inverted bottle down onto the central spring loaded pin. This delivers a squirt of sanitiser into the bottle that drains back into the bowl. Plunge several times and bung the bottle onto a drying rack (or bread crate etc). You get into a routine and it doesn't take long.
HEAPS quicker than filling bottles and transferring to the next bottle.

That is precisely what I use. Its the ducks nuts.

 

[bignath]

they do look like a good idea........

where would one find one of those "ducks nuts"?

 

[JDW81]

they do look like a good idea........

where would one find one of those "ducks nuts"?

I got mine from grain and grape, but I'm sure any HB shop worth their salt will either stock them or get one in for you. Not real expensive either.

JD

 

[Rowy]

Do you guys not use one of these?
View attachment 50406

They are the best thing since sliced bread (as far a bottling is concerned). You put the starsan solution etc in the bowl and press the inverted bottle down onto the central spring loaded pin. This delivers a squirt of sanitiser into the bottle that drains back into the bowl. Plunge several times and bung the bottle onto a drying rack (or bread crate etc). You get into a routine and it doesn't take long.
HEAPS quicker than filling bottles and transferring to the next bottle.


I always double rinse bottles after consumption. On bottling day I soak my bottles in the bath tub in hot sodium perc and scrub them as neccessary. Drain into bath, plunge onto the above doobey a couple of times and then onto a draning rack. I have a production line going with sitting on a crate between the tub and the drying racks. Any spills are easy to clean off the tiled floor too.

Do you have to rinse off sodium perc?

 

[Truman42]

I just use a bottle washer with about 500mL of no rinse sanitising solution. I've washed 50+ bottles in one go and never had an infection (touch wood).

I wouldn't bother with the dishwasher myself as my bottle washing system (rinse well after use and sanitise before filling) is easy as.

JD

Well I always rinse soak and rinse again after use but Ive had them sitting on the mezzanine at work and they are dusty again so was going to wash them in the dishwasher then sanitise them.

I was at G&G today and didnt even think to buy one of those bottle sanitisers. How much are they roughly?

 

[Greg.L]

Dishwashers are excellent for washing bottles, I don't understand all the resistance to this idea on this forum. You don't need any detergent, just the combination of hot water and steam is excellent for killing germs, so long as the bottles are rinsed after drinking. Hot water is much more effective than any sanitising solution, it has the power to penetrate.

 

[Yob]

Do you have to rinse off sodium perc?

YES... unless you are using almost pure sod perc. there are fillers and junk compounds that make the regular a napi-san type thing...
Sodium Perc is a good cleaner and IMO (and by popular consensus) should be used in conjunction with a NRS... well thats waht I do anyway and am comfortable in the thought that I am clean and free of unknown by-product in my beer..

No Rinse Sanitisers :super:

Hand in hand though.. "you cannot get sanitised if you are not cleaned first"

 

[pk.sax]

Dishwashers are excellent for washing bottles, I don't understand all the resistance to this idea on this forum. You don't need any detergent, just the combination of hot water and steam is excellent for killing germs, so long as the bottles are rinsed after drinking. Hot water is much more effective than any sanitising solution, it has the power to penetrate.

+1

I still hit the bottles individually with a quick spray of starsan before bottling. Rather quick.

When I just did dishwasher (mine went up to 95C or something, I'd put a bit of sodium perc in the soap cage).

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

+2 for the dishwasher..

Dishwasher tabs are VERY alkaline and contain no detergents. Along with the hot water they are perfect.

When you do your beer glasses in the dishwasher, fill the rinse aid thingy up with pure white vinegar....your glasses will sparkle and hold a great head.

 

[Rowy]

I know I shouldn't be making this confession but on bottling days I quite enjoy the washing and sanitising. I have a beer or two whilst doing it and I find it relaxing. I know this means I'm odd but what the heck!

 

[Truman42]

I know I shouldn't be making this confession but on bottling days I quite enjoy the washing and sanitising. I have a beer or two whilst doing it and I find it relaxing. I know this means I'm odd but what the heck!

I actually dont mind it either..Its all part of the process..

 

[Rowy]

I actually dont mind it either..Its all part of the process..

Well thats makes me fell better. I can stop painting my nails kick my high heels off and grab a beer now I know I'm not odd

 

[Malted]

Just pondering, just throwing it out there for discussion.
How much steam and alkaline liquid really would get INTO the bottle in the dish basher? The mouth of the bottle is not very large and it has a wire rack thingy stuffed in it. So maybe not much would get squirted in so you'd rely on steam rising, but if the orifice is closed somewhat.... maybe it is more that the HEAT would act upon the inside of the bottle? I'd reckon 95oC would do the trick but I am just pondering.

Yes you probably should rinse sodium perc, but to an extent that is what the sanitiser does apart from sanitising? What would you rinse sodium perc with otherwise? Wash in sodium perc and then rinse with tap water? Wouldn't that potentially have bugs in it? Wouldn't it be better to rinse with cooled boiled water? Probably not going to happen. What is worse a bit of residual soapy stuff, or potential residual greeblies? Interested to hear opinions.

 

[Malted]

How much are they roughly?

Roughly 25 bickies. Get one, once you use it you'll wonder why you had not previously.
You can buy a bottle draining tree and these plug onto the top of them. I would be distrustful of this (but have not used it this way) because it takes a bit of force to shove them down onto the bottle rinser and I wouldn't want to rattle/upset a bottle tree like that. I sit my bottle rinser on the floor so I can just shove the bottles over it. Apparently a bread crate is perfect for holding heaps of bottles whilst they are inverted and drying...