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Guys i have 500gms of Weyermann Munich Type 2. Could I chuck this into the recipe too? For a more maltier Pilsener? Would it make much of a difference?

1kg LME
3kg Pilsner malt mashed at 65deg
Bitter to 35 IBUs with
60g Saaz @ 60min
25g Saaz @ 20mins
25g Saaz @ 5 mins
Saflager yeast at lager temps.

Cheers
Steve
 
After I get this downpacked guys.

I am after a recipe for Porter? Any ideas.

Cheers.
 
Guys i have 500gms of Weyermann Munich Type 2. Could I chuck this into the recipe too? For a more maltier Pilsener? Would it make much of a difference?

1kg LME
3kg Pilsner malt mashed at 65deg
Bitter to 35 IBUs with
60g Saaz @ 60min
25g Saaz @ 20mins
25g Saaz @ 5 mins
Saflager yeast at lager temps.

Cheers
Steve

I can't see why not. I have never used that malt before but I am guessing its like a dark Munich malt???

My stock standard pilsner grain bill is 92% Pils malt, 4% Munich and 4% Carapils. I then just tweak the amounts accordingly if I want a dryer or maltier beer.

If you plan to do more of these why not use just half and save the rest for another brew? 500g will be a tad on the high side, but not necessarily too much.

And a note about this recipe, I just want to reiterate that I just threw this together in two seconds - I have never brewed it or even had a decent look at it in Beersmith. I would make sure all the estimated gravities/colour/IBU etc are what you are after. A lot of those quantities are based on guesses from experience.

If I get some time I'll run it through beertools and post it here, but again, there are so many variables that will potentially affect your results (like efficiency, alpha of your hops, exact boil volume and gravity etc etc). I doubt the recipe will be too far off the mark though - certainly a good start.
 
Hahaha I've already committed to the ingredients, Gerard of Northern brewings dropping off today so I hopes they are right :)
 
Thanks TD - I trust your judgement. I'll just throw it in and see what happens. Might give the munich a miss though as I worked out I dont think my boil pot (19litre) is going to be big enough?
If I mash with 2.5 litres per 1kg - that makes 7.5litre in the mash pot.
If I sparge with another 2.5 litres per 1kg that makes = 18.75 litres!
I have another 12 litre pot so I guess I could do a split boil in the two pots?
Thoughts?
Cheers
Steve

P.S. I cant get promash here at work. But am going to have a look at beer alchemy at home as I have a MAC.
 
Here it is with 250g of dark munich and 2.75kg of pils. I have no idea what sort of efficiency you guys might get - 75% might be a tad on the high side, so like PoMo said, having a bit of DME on hand might be a good idea.

Looks pretty good I reckon...



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Pils Partial Mash
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General
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Category: Pilsner
Subcategory: Bohemian Pilsener
Recipe Type: Partial Mash
Batch Size: 20 liters
Volume Boiled: 15 liters
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Total Grain/Extract: 4.00 kg.
Total Hops: 100.0 g.
Calories (12 fl. oz.): 188.8
Cost to Brew: $28.17 (USD)
Cost per Bottle (12 fl. oz.): $0.50 (USD)

Ingredients
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2.75 kg. Australian Pilsner
0.25 kg. German Dark Munich
1 kg. Liquid Light Extract
60 g. Czech Saaz (Pellets, 3.5 %AA) boiled 60 minutes.
20 g. Czech Saaz (Pellets, 3.5 %AA) boiled 20 minutes.
20 g. Czech Saaz (Pellets, 3.5 %AA) boiled 5 minutes.
Yeast: DCL Yeast Saflager S-23 Genuine Lager Yeast

Notes
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Vital Statistics
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Original Gravity: 1.048
Terminal Gravity: 1.014
Color: 4.17 SRM
Bitterness: 34.3 IBU
Alcohol (%volume): 4.4 %

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Results prepared by BeerTools.com
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How does it get a boil size of 15litres? Have a look at my previous post as I worked out 18.75litres?
Hey TD - thanks very much for this by the way!
Steve
 
I entered that manually - just sparge with as much water as you need to achieve 15L of collected wort in total. You will need some headspace in your pot - 18L will be too close to the brim. 15L should be ok though - just make sure you keep an eye on it!! :D

3kg @ 3:1 = 9L of mash water
Since the grain will absorb some liquid (usually around 1L per kilo of grain), you will only collect around 6L of wort from the first runnings
Sparge with an additional 9L of water to achieve boil volume of 15L.

Basically just keep sparging until you hit 15L and then stop.
 
Cooling the wort after all the boil.

What do you guys recommend to get it into the temp rang of 10-14?

Cheers.
 
The old "pot in the laundry sink full of water" method would be the best at this stage. Just make sure you have plenty of ice on hand to get it down to lager temps...
 
DrewCarey

Did someone say "No Chill"? :ph34r: :eek: :rolleyes: :D

Crozdog
 
Depends if you want to ferment that day or not.

I must say, sticking the hot wort in a 15L (ESB wort kit) cube and leaving it overnight would be the way would do it if it was me. That way you can also throw it in the fridge for a few hours prior to pitching and get the temps down to lager temps.
 
Sensational TD - thanks for that.
Drew - I put the pot in a sink of cold water - and keep refilling sink when it gets warm. You could also guy a couple of bottles of plain water the day before, chill them and pour this into the pot. Leave it for half an hour then pour into the fermenter.
Cheers
Steve
 
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....... Food for thought.

Steve PM me your email addy, Ross just sent me an excellent guide for partial mashing via email and I'll send it onto you.

Cheers.
 
Hey guys, I've been meaning to post this for a while now but I've been pretty busy of late. This is a recipe I recently did that came out very nice indeed - I wanted to make a "Euro" lager along the same lines as either Stella or Heineken. I looked at a few other recipes, used 'em as a starting point and concocted this in Promash.

Batch Size (L): 23.00 Wort Size (L): 23.00
Total Grain (kg): 4.61
Anticipated OG: 1.047 Plato: 11.61
Anticipated SRM: 4.4
Anticipated IBU: 26.1
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Formulas Used
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Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Coarse Grind As Is.

Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Rager

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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36.9 1.70 kg. Muntons LME - Extra Light England 80.07 3
32.5 1.50 kg. Pilsner Australia 76.48 1
8.7 0.40 kg. CaraPilsner France 71.27 10
21.9 1.01 kg. Vienna Malt Germany 75.43 3

Potential represented as Yield, Coarse Grind As Is.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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26.00 g. Perle Pellet 8.25 15.6 30 min.
5.00 g. Czech Saaz Pellet 3.50 0.0 Dry Hop
27.00 g. Hallertau Northern Brewer Pellet 8.50 8.7 15 min.
20.00 g. Czech Saaz Pellet 3.50 1.7 5 min.


Yeast
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Yeast Lab L31 Pilsner Lager - W34/70

If this looks complicated it was just 1.5kg of pilsner malt, 1Kg of Vienna malt and 400g of Carapilsner mashed at 65C for an hour and a half in 9 litres of water (I did a multistep mash - in practice for AG batches - but you dont need to do this). Sparge the grains (in a grain bag) with about 5 or 6 litres of water at about 80c (if you cant boil this volume you could always rinse the grains a few times with a kettle full or 3 of boiled - not boiling - water).

Boil this wort for 60 mins - after 30 mins of boil time throw in the Perle hops - after another 15 mins throw in the Hallartauer - after another 10 mins throw in the first lot of Saaz and at flame out throw in the last lot of Saaz.

Cool the wort (laundry tub full of water and ice is good if you dont have chillers etc).

Put the LME in the fermenter (sanitised of course) and mix with a kettle of water, strain the wort into the fermenter through a sterilised sieve, top up to 23L with cold or chilled water. Pitch your yeast (i rehydrate yeast or use a liquid yeast - but again you dont have to if you dont want to) when your temp is about 19/20C - once the yeast has a hold and is producing gas I reduced the temp (read - stuck it in a cold room - hehehe) to about 12C.

This turned out very nice indeed - even the missus loves it - which is unusual. The only thing I thought I might change next time is make it a bit more hoppy possibly - this recipe gave me about 26 IBUs, I thought I might up it to about 35 and see what its like.

Hope somebody finds this useful :D
 
Gday all

Thought id bump this topic instead of starting a new one.
Im after a partial recipe for an Australian Pale Ale, so if any fellow brewers have a recipe id be glad to know B)

Cheers

Tim
 
Couple of Kilo's unhopped extract
1 Kg Pils malt
0.5 Kg Wheat malt
0.2 Kg med Crystal
20g POR (8.9%) @ 60min
10g Hallertau (7%) @ 20 min
10g Hallertau (7%) @ 10 min
US56 @ 16-17C

This is the brew im drinking at the mo'. Mashed @65ish degrees to dry it out.

Next time I'll probably culture up some Coopers yeast to use...

Cheers,

JS

PS. Oops, almost forgot... It drinks quite nicely! Maybe a touch more Hallertau needed for my taste, however it fits the Aussie PA style well.
 

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