Recipe Advice

[Damian44]

Hey, What would be better for bittering in a Amber APA, Green Bullet or POR?

I adjusted the Alpha of my POR. Its 2008 and has been stored in the freezer. Beersmith tells me the Alpha has droped from 8.3% to 4.3%, is that right?

How does my recipe look?


Type: All Grain
Date: 11/29/2009
Batch Size: 23.00 L
Brewer: Damian
Boil Size: 28.05 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: Biab
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.24 kg Pilsner (Joe White) (3.0 SRM) Grain 71.96 %
0.46 kg Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 10.12 %
0.34 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 7.65 %
0.23 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 5.17 %
0.23 kg Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 5.10 %
41.40 gm Pride of Ringwood [4.30 %] (60 min) Hops 23.1 IBU
9.20 gm Cascade [6.00 %] (10 min) Hops 1.4 IBU
9.20 gm Centennial [10.00 %] (10 min) Hops 2.4 IBU
13.80 gm Centennial [10.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
13.80 gm Cascade [6.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
2 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.045 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.010 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.012 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.51 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.95 %
Bitterness: 27.0 IBU Calories: 468 cal/l
Est Color: 12.4 SRM Color:



TYVM Damian

 

[chappo1970]

Yep hops diminish by 50% per year.

For my tastes and also because your using cascade and centennial I would use the green bullet for bittering. Green bullet is more within the hop flavour profile of you flavour and aroma hops IMHO. POR is a little too grassy and might over power the finish palate of your beer.

Chap Chap

 

[Damian44]

Thanks Chappo. I plugged the Green Bullets into Beersmith and they only dropped from 13% to 10%.

How are my late additions, i want it hoppy but not IPA hoppy?



TYVM Damian

 

[Screwtop]

Hey, What would be better for bittering in a Amber APA, Green Bullet or POR?

I adjusted the Alpha of my POR. Its 2008 and has been stored in the freezer. Beersmith tells me the Alpha has droped from 8.3% to 4.3%, is that right?

How does my recipe look?


Type: All Grain
Date: 11/29/2009
Batch Size: 23.00 L
Brewer: Damian
Boil Size: 28.05 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: Biab
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.24 kg Pilsner (Joe White) (3.0 SRM) Grain 71.96 %
0.46 kg Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 10.12 %
0.34 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 7.65 %
0.23 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 5.17 %
0.23 kg Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 5.10 %
41.40 gm Pride of Ringwood [4.30 %] (60 min) Hops 23.1 IBU
9.20 gm Cascade [6.00 %] (10 min) Hops 1.4 IBU
9.20 gm Centennial [10.00 %] (10 min) Hops 2.4 IBU
13.80 gm Centennial [10.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
13.80 gm Cascade [6.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
2 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.045 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.010 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.012 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.51 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.95 %
Bitterness: 27.0 IBU Calories: 468 cal/l
Est Color: 12.4 SRM Color:



TYVM Damian

Damian,

Go ahead and use the hops according to Beersmiths hop ageing tool for experience. I use 50% of the time when ageing if the hops have been stored in the freezer. First time using the ageing tool with a high Alpha hop the resulting beer was way too bitter, next time I reduced the time (Years) by half and bittering was fine.

Cheers,

Screwy

 

[chappo1970]

Yep agree with Screwy. Solid advice as usual from a brewing great! (Now he is gunna think somethings up LOL!)

Damien,
Depends on your tastes but you have 46grs of aroma hopping there which will also contribute to flavour depending on how you chill to ferment temp. I would suggest 46grs of late additions IMO is borderline hoppy so you could dial that back by a 1/3rd if you are neverous. If it was me to my tastes I would stick with what you have. Sorry for the wish washy response but tastes are a personal preference thingo which is completely subjective.

Chap Chap

 

[Screwtop]

Yep agree with Screwy. Solid advice as usual from a brewing great!

Chappo's being nice to me................yep..............something's up :lol:

Screwy

 

[Nick JD]

Green Bullet is the Steinlager hop, eh bro.

 

[bconnery]

Green Bullet is the Steinlager hop, eh bro.

Yes, but it's still a nice hop though

 

[chappo1970]

Yes, but it's still a nice hop though

Nice to share a thread with the wise for once.

 

[Nick JD]

Yes, but it's still a nice hop though

For sure. But they're not called "Steingrenades" for nothing. Worst ... hangover ... beer ... ever.

 

[Damian44]

Green Bullets go great guns in a stout.

I marked my Green Bullets down to 8.2% from 13%. Unfortunately i didn't have enough of the stuff, so the bitterness was 50% Green Bullets and 50% POR. I needed 43 grams of POR (4.3%) for a 50L batch. I hope it wont be to noticeable. The wort tasted very grassy, but that could be from the other hops. It was a nice grassy but.

I burnt the crap out of my hand with boiling water right at the start of the day. It was a painful brewday, but every thing else went smooth. YAY.

Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated.

TYVM Damian