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Since I'm new around here and, of course, American...I thought that I would ask a few questions to become acquainted with your country.

For the record, I'm not really interested in political debate. Discussion is one thing, but this is a brewing forum so I wont get into a left v. right debate with anyone (this typically happens on "American" forums BTW)

I've seen a few comments about your healthcare system. Is everything really free? I could walk into a hospital right now with a gash in my head, get it stapled/stitched and walk out not having to worry about a bill? Does this include dental/vision and everything else?

What is your federal tax rate?

Is Rugby pretty much Austraila's version of baseball or what?

Does anyone else think that Russell Crowe is an asshat also?

Is it awesome having Christmas in summer?

What has happened with the Australian aboriginee (I butchered that spelling I'm sure). Do they live on reservations like many Native American tribes do?

Do you guys watch American movies at the theater? Australian? Both?

What is the general perception of America and Americans in your country? What is YOUR perception?
Oh yeah.

If you walked into emergency then you would be treated without incurring any cost or being required to be a member of a health fund. Dental can be free but you can also pay for private. Same goes for vision.

Only the federal govt. can levy an income tax. It's a progressive scale depending on income. I'd say the average is around 25%. There are other taxes to do with consumption, purchase of land etc. levied at the state level (Australia is a federation of states similar to the US).

Rugby and baseball? No, perhaps rugby and US football for similarity. Australian Rules Football is by far the most popular spectator sport. It's a winter sport, the dominant summer sport is Cricket.

Christmas at summer is great but you need to adjust the menu, not so much stodgy stuff otherwise you sink in the swimming pool.

Your reference to butchering and the Aborigines is co-incidental but nonetheless accurate. Much the same experience as the Native American's but with less respect.

Us movies and TV are dominant. Cheap and cheerful.

"What is the general perception of America and Americans in your country? What is YOUR perception?"

Now you're making it difficult. I've been to the US once, a couple of years ago mainly New York and found it stunning. I think that Cormac McCarthy, Hunter Thompson and Jimi Hendrix are as important to the canon as Shakespeare and DH Larwence. I think Nixon was the most fascinating political figure of the 20th century and that Kubrick is the greatest exponent of the medium. But I don't agree with your foreign policy and your obsession with guns is just lunacy.

And you craft brewed beer and second to none (and reasonably priced).

Anyway, what about us? What do you reckon, and none of this "you Ossies are great" crap.
 
Not sure if you're just interested in Australia, or actually living here?

A Medicare card will get you inpatient hospital care totally free, whether that's getting a gash stitched up in an ER, a drug eluting stent or defibrillator (contrary to a previous post, public patients get the Rolls Royce models) months of chemotherapy for any cancer, a kidney or liver transplant or a premmie baby months of care in a NICU. You will wait months or years if you want a hip replacement, prostate bore-out or cataract surgery. If you're fat and want lap banding, go on a friggin diet.

Seeing doctors out of the hospital system will cost you, maybe $20-200 out of pocket depending on whether it's a basic primary care consult or a specialist. Market forces dictate some radiology and pathology services are free, others out of pocket depending on the local competition. Drugs are subsidised - cost about $30 for a script, a bit more than what I paid in the US.

30% "buy" private health insurance out of their own pocket. It doesn't come with your job like in US. It costs about $5000 pa for a family. I think my contribution when I worked in US was about $3000, and my employer contributed $30 000 to my private health bill!

Our income tax rates are relatively high, especially at the top end. As some people point out, we don't have all the state and local income taxes that you guys do, so it actually doesn't work out THAT much higher. But as a country we are far too reliant on personal income tax for govt revenue, this balance has been changing but we need a broader tax base (corporates, consumption) to take the burden off the general wage earner, including high income wage earners who don't have clever accountants, but just choose to work hard.

Cricket = baseball. Rugby (union and league) = NFL in terms of physicality. AFL = NFL in terms of only being played in one country. Union = private school, and is a bit more complex tactically like NFL. League = public school, and is a bit "simpler" (sorry).

Don't really care about Russell Crowe, other than to say he is a pretty kickarse actor, he's good at his job so good on him as far as I'm concerned.

Summer Christmas is great. I did enjoy my two white Christmases in US too. A strange combination of beer, cold seafood and salad, and more traditional British hot dishes (turkey, roast pork, ham) a bit like Thanksgiving.

Indigenous Australians have been very hard done by, they are very disadvantaged, some of this is self inflicted but most of it is white man's fault (and I am a right winger). Their health standards are disgraceful. Both left and right wing governements are to blame. They own big ******* mines, national parks and environmental resorts, not trashy casinos. Except in Queensland where the left wing government did the dirty on the indigenous people in Nth Qld for a grubby little voting deal with elite latte sipping communist greens in inner city Brisbane, but that's another story.

US entertainment dominates Australian TVs and cinemas. It is not an exaggeration to say the US have achieved more with their entertainment industry than their military every will, in influencing the world.

I lived in America for 2 years while doing fellowships. Boston and NY. Travelled to Texas, Nawlins, Vegas, San Fran, LA and New England. It is a wonderfully diverse and incredible country. Our Prime Minister John Howard had a saying "the things that unite us are greater than the things that divide us" in reference to divides within our country. I believe Barack Obama says something similar. The same could be said for our two countries. Living there I noticed more similarities than difference. People love their families and close friends. They love their country. They love holidays, social activities, hobbies, etc. They want the best for their kids, and probably don't look after their elderly generation as well as oither cultures. The vast majority of humans are courteous, responsible and civil minded. I have extremely fond memories of America and Americans. I think they are misunderstood, just as the French, the British, the Israelis, the Palestinians...

The differences? Americans work VERY hard, too hard in my opinion, but I really respect them for that. Work tends to dominate their lives more than in Aus. They are probably more ambitious. Depending on which way you look at it, we're either lazier, or have a better worl life balance (although by all reports Australia is still a hard working people comapred to Europe).
America, despite being very libertarian, also has a strong authority structure. Even the bitch in the ticket booth at a train station is the ticket nazi, that's her little space and you have to do it her way. Australians have this rebellious anti-authority trait which comes from most of us being convicts and rebelling against the British authority structure. We don't even respect our Prime Minister, whereas your President seems to be revered / respected even if their policies are unpopular.
Religion. I'm Catholic, I go to mass at Christmas, Easter and I'm trying to go more often on normal Sundays. I try to be a good person. But it doesn't dominate my life or identity. Religion really is big in the States. Are you Jewish, are you Evangelical, are you Mormon? It seems more tied up with a person's identity, and it comes thru into politics, which I don't like.
Politics - deep down we're both quite conservative countries, but certainly US is far more to the Right. Issues like abortion, gun control, etc just don't rate a mention here. Taxes, health care, education, etc are more relevant issues. I myself am a Conservative voter, but would not vote Republican in the US as I think they're too obsessed with fringe issues, rather than running a decent economy, keeping spending down while still providing good services, etc

We have strong gun control here. Automatic weapons were banned by a conservative government after a massacre in Tasmania - I believe it is still the worst massacre in the world, sadly. As stated you can get guns for other reasons but they are strict. More to the point, it just isn't in the culture. Obviously, criminals have ways of getting these things, so there is still some gun crime.

Basically, the more exposure one has had to different humans, cultures, countries and goverments, the more one realises - I'm not perfect, my culture's not perfect, my country's not perfect and my government's definitely not ******* perfect. If you are actually living in Australia, I'm sure you'll find plenty wrong with our country, little things that annoy you and big things that aanoy you. Arseholes, rude people, bad drivers, the occasional bad customer service operator, weird food that you're not used too... the same happened to us in the US. I hope, overall, you like our country.

Welcome.

Ged
 
Aussie fun fact: on average, Australians can recite more of the lyrics to Working Class Man than the national anthem.


Oh **** me, I thought Working Class Man WAS the national anthem
 
Some Australian football highlights



IM not much in to AFL My fav sport is MMA (mixed martial arts) I have been to both of the UFC events that have come to Australia. (UFC is based in las vegas)

I have seen most of Europe and Asia. I am very much looking forward to checking out Canada, USA, and south America with in the next 5 years.
 
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Ok my take :)

I've seen a few comments about your healthcare system. Is everything really free? I could walk into a hospital right now with a gash in my head, get it stapled/stitched and walk out not having to worry about a bill? Does this include dental/vision and everything else?

My step son needs full spinal fusion surgery for severe scoliosis which is worth $50000. The system grands one free case a month and we were lucky enough to get one :)
I would have had to sell the house otherwise!

What is your federal tax rate?

Too bloody much no mate what you pay

Is Rugby pretty much Austraila's version of baseball or what?

I would say cricket is Australias baseball

Does anyone else think that Russell Crowe is an asshat also?

Have you seen his movie Romper Stomper... its is good

Is it awesome having Christmas in summer?

Hell yeah....... sitting by the pool drinking home brew, swatting flies, sweating at the BBQ cooking lunch! Awsome!

What has happened with the Australian aboriginee (I butchered that spelling I'm sure). Do they live on reservations like many Native American tribes do?

I read a lot of comments in the first couple pages saying "most live in suburbia" I spent 15 years living in NSW outback towns and if you have ever driven into a mission (aborigional comunity housing camps on the outskirts of town)...... you wouldnt call it suburbia!
Some one said thay hadnt been treated any better than the native americans and i agree!
I have known, drank with and worked with a lot of wonderful Aborigional people over the years but unfortunatly there are still a lot of problems... on both sides of the fence.

Do you guys watch American movies at the theater? Australian? Both?

I prefer to watch Australian and other forein films over american usually. Amrican films... especially comedy seems to be way to in your face and needing to explain itsself to make it funny. I dont think many american film or TV show makers have discovered WIT yet

What is the general perception of America and Americans in your country? What is YOUR perception?

Loud, violent, overweight, "junk food thats killing us and our kids" spreading folks but thats mostly a media based perception. I think all in all most americans i have met in person have been very closely like aussies only louder and they talk funny :)

Welcome to AHB mate and i hope you find some good stuff on here!
 
What has happened with the Australian aboriginee (I butchered that spelling I'm sure). Do they live on reservations like many Native American tribes do?

I read a lot of comments in the first couple pages saying "most live in suburbia" I spent 15 years living in NSW outback towns and if you have ever driven into a mission (aborigional comunity housing camps on the outskirts of town)...... you wouldnt call it suburbia!
Some one said thay hadnt been treated any better than the native americans and i agree!
I have known, drank with and worked with a lot of wonderful Aborigional people over the years but unfortunatly there are still a lot of problems... on both sides of the fence.

Tony is quoting me, sweet!
I didn't mean any disrespect by my comment. So I thought I might explain myself.
I don't disagree that some Aboriginal people live in less than ideal situations. I've seen it for myself. What i meant was that according to the most recent census the majority of the aboriginal population live in major cities. I was also trying to explain to our American friend that Aboriginal people are normal people like everyone else. It's not like they are aliens from mars living in a secret government building or something.

OK any way. Have you ever heard of a kangawallafox......
 
Anyway, what about us? What do you reckon, and none of this "you Ossies are great" crap.

I'll get to this later on tonight as I dont have time to right now to write everything that I would like. I've got the little one running around.
 
Does anyone else think that Russell Crowe is an asshat also?
All except South Sydney supporters

The few south Sydney supports I know would disagree with you. It was a bitter fight when Crowe took over.
 
you lot are hilarious! some of those comment on the evil drop bears, and roos........ im rolling on the floor splitting my sides with laughter at work! absolute gold!

yanks are cool...... i still want to know who ted marries.......... the transforemers movies could have had more transformers in them........ boulder in colarado is a rock climbers heaven.......

as for drop bears......... i heard they like to feed on hot swedish chicks, who get lured into going camping by kangaroos........ and snuggly cute koalas...... then when they are asleep, the drop bears drop from coolabah trees and mung on said hot swedish tourists....... the kanagoos and koalas then nick off with the girls makeup and have dressup parties........... beer may have had an influence on the roos dressing up......

on politics...... julia gillard....... enough said........
 
I think it is great that you have taken interest in another country... rare for an American unless you want to invade! Sick joke I know :ph34r:

I've seen a few comments about your healthcare system. Is everything really free? I could walk into a hospital right now with a gash in my head, get it stapled/stitched and walk out not having to worry about a bill? Does this include dental/vision and everything else?
More or less for citizens... in the public sector there is a medicare system. The basics are paid for by the tax system. There are also private hospitals that tend to attract the better doctors for those who can afford it.

What is your federal tax rate?
I have lost count on our taxes... there are lots of them. The obvious ones are a 10% GST and a weighted income tax... works out to be roughly 30% for the average income. Lots of ways to claim some of this back if you have a creative accountant.

Is Rugby pretty much Austraila's version of baseball or what?
There are 3 main codes of football. Rugby Union and Rugby League and AFL. Rugby Union is the bigger game on a global scale, AFL is most popluar in the southern parts of the country and Rugby League on the mid to North East Coasts. They are winter sports like NFL.

Does anyone else think that Russell Crowe is an asshat also?
In the media yes, you do realise he is from New Zealand and migrated to Australia? Out of the public eye he does quite a lot for the community. Realistically he is just another fellow bogan with a high paying day job.

Is it awesome having Christmas in summer?
yes, probably like your 4th of July festivities

What has happened with the Australian aboriginee (I butchered that spelling I'm sure). Do they live on reservations like many Native American tribes do?
Some do, some live like the average citizen.

Do you guys watch American movies at the theater? Australian? Both?
Both, but the American distribution pretty much has our theaters stitched up. Same with the music. So we get the majority of the American product. There are some awesome Australian movies/musicians out there, and even better more just waiting to be exposed... but unfortunately it is just the cheap productions or karaoke idols getting the time of day.

What is the general perception of America and Americans in your country? What is YOUR perception?
Generally, some of the nick names for Americans like "seppos" which comes from "septic tank" meaning full of shit... or "yank" which is slang for masturbation gives an indication that there have been a lot of interactions with Americans that are arrogant, self absorbed lairs. But I know that this doesn't describe all Americans, and indeed there are many characters from all nations that can fit into this category. A few friends that have been to your country have told me it is an awesome place unfortunately filled with Americans... but in a lovingly joking manner before they go back for fun so I guess that is a good thing.

On a personal note I think I'd like it there.
 
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People love their families and close friends. They love their country. They love holidays, social activities, hobbies, etc. They want the best for their kids

Like minded for sure
 
As for my perceptions on Australia:

It needs to be said that I have only met one Australian in my life. I just happened to strike up a conversation with this gentleman while on an almost 3 day train trip across the U.S. Seemed like a nice guy and if he is the Australian norm, then I think I'd get along with almost everyone there.

Obviously, I dont know much about Australia. This is probably because the news outlets in my country do not focus on your country (this is probably a good thing by the way) and I cant think of a movie besides Mad Max and that one with Nicole Kidman a few years ago that had anything to do with Australia. Point is, besides my one chat with an Australian and this website, I have not had any experience with Australians. So I cant really speak on the personalities of Australians. I will however comment on your culture. While I started this thread with the intention of NOT getting into too much political crap, I will touch upon briefly. Please do not take anything I say as an insult against Australia or Australians in general.

1. I'm riding the fence when it comes to your healthcare. I can see that your government is trying to put everyone on a level playing field as far as access to healthcare services, and thats more than admirable. But I dont think that I could stomach paying the extra taxes that go along with it. I make $800 a week at my job now, and I take home $599.80. Thats 25% to Uncle Sam straight off. Plus an average of 6% on damn near everything I purchase. I think thats too much already (its worth noting that I live in one of the highest taxed states). Its not that I dont want to take care of the little old lady down the street who is dying of cancer, but I really wouldnt think that it takes damn near half of my paycheck to do so (this is obviously over-simplified, of course). That and I couldnt imagine the types of scams that my "crafty" fellow Americans could run on this type of system. However, I do think that it would be interesting to see your system in action, and of course, maybe my tune would change if I weren't young and healthy.

2. I honestly cannot stomach the whole "no guns" thing you have going on. I dont consider myself to be a "lunatic" or "gun crazy" at all either. Consider it my way: Our 2nd Amendment guarantees the "right to keep and bear arms". While there is much debate about what excatly this means, what our Founding Fathers intended, and so on, it is clear that George Washington and Co. decided that they want us to be armed. Not only is it out right, but its considered a responsibility by many people in my country. I'm all for a moderate amount of regulation on FOID cards and concealed carry permits (theres hot debate in my states government on whether concealed carry will finally be allowed), i.e. no crazies/felons/etc. but I do believe that the right to keep and bear arms is a cornerstone to the founding of America, and its not going anywhere. Quite honestly, if I ever decided to move out of America (which I wont), your gun laws take Australia out of consideration.

3. (Flamesuit on) According to some peoples comments about the aboriginal people, its painfully obvious that state sponsored racism is alive and well in Australia. At least one poster said that its easier for them to receive government support than other ethnicities, which is a damn shame. This happens in America also. Native Americans college tuitions are much much cheaper than white Americans (or free altogether), those living on reservations receieve homes every decade or so.
I spent 3 years living in Tucson AZ, in the Sonoran Desert just a hop skip and jump north of Mexico. Not too far from the city is a reservation of Native Americans, The Tohono O'odam people. From what I saw they live in squalor. Alcoholism, drug problems, and other health issues (diabetes and weight problems namely) run rampant, as do suicides. Roughly 95% are on welfare and dont do of anything during the days. A sad situation. But what does my government do? More handouts! These people have no feeling of self worth and not much more personal accountability. They dont have to do anything to support themselves, so why should they? A perfect example of government gone too big in my humble opinion. /rant off
 
OOPS! i never knew yank meant that! im so sorry!


Haha, neither did I actually. I always thought it was a reference to the whole Civil War thing here in America where the Northerners were called Yankees and the Southerners were called Johnny Rebs
 
Honest and forthright,i like the man :beer: Don't necessarily agree about healthcare or gun laws though :D
 
Honest and forthright,i like the man :beer: Don't necessarily agree about healthcare or gun laws though :D


I appreciate the compliment.

I dont expect a lot of "Hear hear!"s on either of those two topics. Different people from different lands I suppose.

Cheers anyways :beerbang:
 
Quite honestly, if I ever decided to move out of America (which I wont), your gun laws take Australia out of consideration.
Just because we won't let you have guns , you wouldn't consider moving here ?
Gee bloke , that's a bit harsh isn't it ? Even if we send Russel Crowe back to New Zealand ? :ph34r:
 

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