Putting Beer On Tap At The Bar

[AndrewQLD]

and the patio shots, leaves your bar top free for elbows to :lol:

 

[albrews]

Id buy another small chest freezer and put some glycol mix with a copper coil and a pump. Then you could get some glycol lines and run it from where ever you have the space.. Not to mention a frozen font. Have a look at the andale or lancer sites for your beer lines. I get a lot of my stuff from them and they are often cheap then hb stores.

nick

hi,
could you provide links to the andale, lancer sites you mention above, since altavista does not seem

to answer my call.?

thanks alan

 

[warrenlw63]

Andale
Lancer Pacific

Warren -

 

[albrews]

Andale
Lancer Pacific

Warren -

hi warren,

thanks for the info.

cheers alan

 

[Tony]

I'm wondering if you could treat it like a party setup. A bar fridge with a stainless steel coil inside, immersed in a bucket of water... leaving the keg outside the fridge?

840 high should fit a keg. My corny keg measures about 640... the disconnects shouldn't take up the difference.

Keep us posted.

I think this is going to be my best option!

You need to find yourself a temprite Tony!

Should probably tuck itself away up the end there somewhere, then just sit a couple of cornies under the bar and you're good to go.

something like this

And what's with the Extra Dry in the case - saving it for a special occasion?

the extra dry case is one of those electric arking things (wow that was a technical description from someone with an electrical engineering diploma :huh: ) have a look in the "what beer gear did santa bring" thread. I put photos in on the first page.

Maybe you could cut the wine rack in the middle and prop it up, then use the space to put in a freezer. A 150 litre should fit in there, and i think you could fit in 2 kegs.
Hmm i have a 150litre freezer, hmmm.
Eric

I have a 140 liter freezer and its too tall to fit. Its the most practicle idea. I think i will look into a shorter freezer.

Small chest freezer on the other side of the bar. Run the lines through the side of the freezer under the bar. Cover them in some of the black fridgy insulation stuff to keep them cool.

cheers

Darren

I thought of this as well but there is a sofa bed there and there is not really anywhere else it can go. it gets used a bit and when its folded up its my possy for watching the cricket between the bar and the fireplace (for the winter with a porter in hand). Its hard to explain but its inpracticle to put the lounge to another place. something to look into though!

Dig in a coolroom under the house and pump it up through the floor boards!!!

you paying mate......... she is a concrete slab abd slate floor!

I wish!

tear all that ***** out, that wood looks disgusting
put in some plastic tarp, a sprinkler and a pole with some lights shining on it
run some Cellis out of the pole
the plastic as a drip tray.....what?
what were you thinking?

No comment

What's behind that brick wall, Tony? Maybe you could put your freezer on the other side and run the beer lines throught the wall....

Cheers - Snow.

the brick wall is an internal wall and backs onto a hallway that leads to bedrooms, laundry and downstairs toilets. We dont want the access to the dunny blocked when on the piss i tell ya.






Thanks for all the ideas folks....... i think i am going to have to investigate the hot keg and temprite in the fridge!
That raises another question from me.

How do i go about gassing it when its warm

I know beer absorbes CO2 better when its cold.

what does everyone else do?

cheers

 

[eric8]

Tony,
you certainly have a few options :blink: , so good luck with choosing one.
That plastic tarp trip tray still sounds good to me .
Eric :chug:

 

[Tony]

Well the quest is under way.

I have decided to re-arange the room and put a freezer on the outside of the bar out of the way and run the linesthrough it to the taps.

I have a 300 or 400 liter frrzer for the kegs in my parents shed ( they dont use it any more and said i could have it)

and i just scored a 2 tap flooded gold cobra font with 2 pushlock grundy taps for $164 off ebay

i am guessing this is a good price........ i watched one go for $420 on there a few months back.

what im thinking of doing is running the beer lines to the taps from the freezer in a large tube which is supplying the font with a glycol mix. Kind of like a counterflow setup. this should keep them cold.

not sure of the logistics yet but i will work it out.

cheers

 

[Tony]

does anyone have pictures of a similar setup......... mainly how they run their beer lines and cooling solution the the flooded font?

cheers

 

[sqyre]

Tony,

I'd be looking at that python line from andale. It has as many beerlines as you need plus 2 glycol lines (Feed and Return)You can run it from where ever you can shove a fridge and just use a pond pump to circulate some glycol through it.

Better yet make your own python and just tape some plastic beer lines together with 2 extra in the middle for glycol and wrap it in a bit of insulation.

I tried to make an inline temprite but my lines were too short to reduce a room temp beer any lower than about 10 degrees. so now its a huge hi-tek python line. See HERE



Sqyre...

 

[Wortgames]

Tony, I don't think you'll get much success using the same freezer for beer and glycol. For a start you'll use up precious space in the beer freezer, and for another thing it simply won't be very effective. At best the glycol will start off a couple of degrees warmer than the beer, pick up a few degrees on its way to the font, pick up some extra heat from the thermal mass of the font (but probably not enough to really achieve much) and deliver it all back into your glycol container. Essentially you will be 'warming' the lines and the font in relation to the beer, as the glycol system will always be that much warmer than the beer.

I would suggest using a fridge/freezer combo, with the glycol in the freezer part obviously. Most fridges will fit 4 kegs if you remove the door lining. It will have a smaller footprint than the chest freezer, and you can still use the chest freezer elsewhere if you need the extra cold storage space.

I used this setup in Sydney with about 4 metres of (mostly) insulated lines and always maintained a nice cold font, with plenty of condensation on it (but never any frost). And that was with a 10L bucket of antifreeze in the freezer compartment at probably -25C. If you've got longer lines to run then decent insulation will be essential, and I'd also put some thought into improving the glycol container - obviously the bigger the better, and a sealed system (eg a large tub with a snap fit lid) would be better as I got a lot of frost build-up in the freezer. Metal would no doubt improve things again but I would say the sheer mass of glycol is far more important than the container material.

I definitely think you'll be wasting your time trying to chill the glycol in the fridge though.

 

[Tony]

OK......

I kind of thought that if it was insulated to the font it would it would hold temp. It will only be piped for a couple of meters out of the freezer which will be running at 4 deg.

i was only looking to stop the beer in the line going hot, not hold it at 2 deg c.

I can see the case for freezing the glycol though for heat loss.

Does anyone else have comments or experience with this?

cheers

 

[Tony]

Got my freezer today........ plans have begun!

Its a 320 liter job....... it will hold 1 x 50 liter keg for general drinking duties. I will fill this with easy drinking pale ales and lagers that people generally prefer to drink when they visit.

I like them too

It will have room for 2 soda kegs as well. these will hold something for the more adventurous. ESB's, IPA,s, Smoked porters and rauchbiers, belgians ect.

I am going to raise the lid up to give it mote clearance for the big keg and also so i have somewhere to drill through to run the lines out without killing the freezer

cheers

 

[FNQ Bunyip]

A bit more of that panneling around it Tony and it will look like it was ment to be there...

Looking good buddy.
:beer:

 

[Fingerlickin_B]

I am going to raise the lid up to give it mote clearance for the big keg and also so i have somewhere to drill through to run the lines out without killing the freezer

Two birds with one stone Tony...run the lines through a hole in your riser section between the freezer body and lid

PZ.

 

[Tony]

yeah im thinking of building the lid up to the same height as the bar and lining the freezer with some sort of timber.

I dont want to cover it up too much and burn it out cause it cant cool itsself down though.

the lines will only be out of the freezer for about 600mm before they reach the flooded font so this should work out ok i hope

cheers

 

[bonj]

Looking good Tony. Maybe a coat of paint would make it less conspicuous without effecting the cooling.

 

[razz]

Hey Tony, have you got enough room to turn that freezer 90 degrees clockwise and then rebuild the end of the bar to fit around it ? :blink:

 

[bindi]

Tony here are two shots of how I set up my freezer at the end of the bar, the shot of the freezer open was taken the the day I did it awhile back now, was running glycol then not now <_< also a newer shot of the font [with the new taps ] which is near the end of the bar, I had the same problem as you, could not get the freezer behind the bar or the wall.

 

[Tony]

looks great mate.

what temp did you run the glycol at? did it work ok?

Im worried about it warming the beer in the font now.

cheers

 

[Batz]

looks great mate.

what temp did you run the glycol at? did it work ok?

Im worried about it warming the beer in the font now.

cheers

I just have a plastic jerry on the 'hump' of my freezer,I think you will find 80% of people have their flooded font tank in their beer serving freezer.
And you won't need to go to glycol for this,I just use salty water,my font has lots of condensation and looks great.

Batz