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Hi everybody!!

I've been just using 34/70 for years and years and have actually never tried anything else.. I used to be happy with it but the past year or so I've gotten a minute weird almost off taste I think is me disliking that particular strain so have just bought a couple liquid types (WLP850 Copenhagen lager and WLP833 German Bock)


My question is, are these clean lager yeast really that different? What are your experiences?
 
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I recently stopped using 34/70 Doc after quite a few years. I haven’t used liquid yeasts for many years due to the convenience of dry varieties and their increase in available strains. I have just kegged a German Pils and it is by far the best lager style that I have made for many years. This time I used the Lallemand Diamond Lager strain. I think I will keep using it for sometime to come.
And in summing up, it’s the vibe it’s Marbo. Yep, I think they are different.
 

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Hi everybody!!

I've been just using 34/70 for years and years and have actually never tried anything else.. I used to be happy with it but the past year or so I've gotten a minute weird almost off taste I think is me disliking that particular strain so have just bought a couple liquid types (WLP850 Copenhagen lager and WLP830 German Bock)


My question is, are these clean lager yeast really that different? What are your experiences?
The Copenhagen lager yeast throws a little sulphur but let it sit in the keg for two weeks and it’s very light crisp and clean
 

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I use liquid being wlp czech budvar.

I did a 34/70 and did not enjoy it. Even the wife commented something was off without knowing.
 

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Well I've had my first lager done with the Copenhagen lager yeast sitting in the keg a month now and it's still quite cloudy.. never had a beer take this long to condition before. I can't yet comment because it's simply not ready yet. It finished at 1.006, my lowest fg ever.

Had the German Bock lager sitting two months now and it's great. Very, very similar to the old 34/70 but without that little something off about it. Despite the blurb saying it leans toward maltiness I don't note that at all. Finish is as normal
 

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I've been using Fermentis S189 for lagers and pils.
When I made lagers, I used S189 in Helles, Oktoberfests and clones of old Czech/US brews called Prior and Prior Dark, loved it in those malty styles, but never tried it in a pilsner.
 
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Dont forget Budvar W2000 and Czech Pilsner W2278 which I prefer for dark lagers.
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S189 is pretty much my house lager yeast. I've used it in nearly every lager style I've made - Pilsners, Helles, Dunkels, Euro style lagers, Aus lagers etc.
I really like it, it's clean, consistent and versatile. Floccs really quickly as well.

Ironically, I just pitched 34/70 into a lager today for a change.
 

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I recently stopped using 34/70 Doc after quite a few years. I haven’t used liquid yeasts for many years due to the convenience of dry varieties and their increase in available strains. I have just kegged a German Pils and it is by far the best lager style that I have made for many years. This time I used the Lallemand Diamond Lager strain. I think I will keep using it for sometime to come.
And in summing up, it’s the vibe it’s Marbo. Yep, I think they are different.
Glad to hear, I just bought a few packs of this but haven't tried it yet. Will be doing shortly.
 

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I recently bought some 34/70, not yet tried it. I do use S189 - love it, S-23 - love it, Just discovered Kveik - WOW, and S-04 - does a nice job. Have played with several others but these are my regulars.
 

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Well I've done three lagers with the Copenhagen lager yeast and all have finished at 1.006.. incredibly dry. Just got a VB clone on now to see how it turns out, will keep you guys posted. This one is all grain mind you, sucrose addition would have it finishing far too low (VB is 1.006 fwiw)

Here's the first one I did, almost crystal clear now, has taken two months to get to this point mind you. While I don't love the grain grist (first time trying melanoidon) I do like the finish. A nice yeast. Especially noting how "clean" this yeast actually is. I've probably never tasted a cleaner, more transparent beer. I think it would be a complete winner in any dry pilsner really. The latest two are being finned with gelatin so hopefully will drop clear alot sooner
 
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Well that was quick.. kegged just 1 week ago using gelatin this CUB type lager is pretty much crystal clear already

While I don't have a VB on hand to compare I'd have to say it's going to be pretty damn spot-on. Right now before even lagering it's very clean, both taste and aroma. I just get that "beery" smell the magaswill lagers are renowned for along with a crisp malt profile. Just a real easy drinking beer really. I'll have to grab a Vic sometime before the kegs out and report back

Cheers all 🍻
 
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