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MarkBastard

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I'm going to make an American IPA in a couple of weeks. I already have the grain and I have all mentioned hops already available but can obviously change the amount based on feedback.

Notes:
* The home grown hops are wet, the 60g is only really the equiv of about 15g, but I've changed the IBU in BeerSmith of that ingredient so that the calculated IBU is more accurate (though I obviously don't know the IBU anyway).
* I'm not a huge Amarillo fan so I've only put a small amount in.
* The late Willamette may seem odd, but I've used it late and dry in pale beers before and really liked it.

Anyone have any feedback? What about using Columbus and Chinook late as well? I'm tempted.


Mark's American IPA

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 20.00 L
Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 69.0
Est Original Gravity: 1.062 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.016 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.0 %
Bitterness: 62.7 IBU
Est Color: 7.9 SRM Color: Color


Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
4000.00 gm Pale Malt, Ale (Barrett Burston) (3.0 SRM) Grain 70.2 %
1700.00 gm Munich Malt II (9.0 SRM) Grain 29.8 %

20.00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00%] (60 min) Hops 31.1 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (60 min) Hops 12.2 IBU

10.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (15 min) Hops 7.2 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (15 min) Hops 6.1 IBU

60.00 gm Chinook (Home Grown Wet) [2.60%] (5 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
10.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50%] (5 min) Hops 1.9 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (5 min) Hops 1.2 IBU

10.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Williamette [5.50%] (0 min) Hops -

5.00 gm Williamette [5.50%] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops -
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops -
 
Munich II at those rates is pretty malty for a to style AIPA, isn't it? I'd be inclined to leaving it as is for myself but I was just wondering. I usually like some crystal of some description in this style but with the fuller malt you're going for I'd say it isn't necessary.

Don't worry about the Willamette possibly being out of style - Rogue put it in pretty much every single one of their beers now and it has improved my favourite of their's a touch (Brutal Bitter). I say go for it.
 
The malt bill isn't going to change either way. I like my IPA's malty! I'm sure the 60+ IBU will still make it a hop dominated beer.

Also I don't really care about being strict to styles or entering into comps either.
 
The hops look OK, but you really need to get some crystal in there or your beer will be dry, bitter and unbalanced. With that many IBUs I'd be putting in 3-400g of light to medium crytstal and mashing about 66C.

cheers

Browndog
 
I'm not putting bloody crystal in an IPA, just not a fan, I like them dry. I'd rather cut back the hops than do that.
 
I'm not putting bloody crystal in an IPA, just not a fan, I like them dry. I'd rather cut back the hops than do that.

Keep your wig on dude, if you like your beers that way, I'm sure it will turn out perfect for your taste.
 
The malt bill isn't going to change either way. I like my IPA's malty! I'm sure the 60+ IBU will still make it a hop dominated beer.

Also I don't really care about being strict to styles or entering into comps either.


I'm not putting bloody crystal in an IPA, just not a fan, I like them dry. I'd rather cut back the hops than do that.


Need some coffee? Not sure why you posted a recipe asking for feedback if you plan on reacting that way when feedback is given.

My 2 c, grist is fine. I add crystal to my AIPAs but not the english IPAs. its a personal taste thing. I add munich to AIPAs, not english IPAs. Perhaps mash a little higher to allow for the fact you dont have any crystal - 67C.

I also don't like using cascade as a bittering hop as i find it harsh. If you don't have enough columbus to get the IBUs then i would use either chinook or amarillo.

Just my 2 c, please don't rip my head of for this. :icon_cheers:
 
Keep your wig on dude, if you like your beers that way, I'm sure it will turn out perfect for your taste.

Sorry that wasn't meant to be taken as me going off at you, stupid interwebs.
 
Need some coffee? Not sure why you posted a recipe asking for feedback if you plan on reacting that way when feedback is given.

My 2 c, grist is fine. I add crystal to my AIPAs but not the english IPAs. its a personal taste thing. I add munich to AIPAs, not english IPAs. Perhaps mash a little higher to allow for the fact you dont have any crystal - 67C.

I also don't like using cascade as a bittering hop as i find it harsh. If you don't have enough columbus to get the IBUs then i would use either chinook or amarillo.

Just my 2 c, please don't rip my head of for this. :icon_cheers:

Sorry doc, as mentioned above I wasn't getting angry, just didn't communicate my point very well.

Your comments on the grist sound like we have similar tastes. I prefer English IPA's to American ones but have all these American hops, so I guess I'm going for something a bit british on the malt scale but American on the hop scale, shouldn't matter either way. I intended to mash at 67 so that's good to know!

Your hop input is very much appreciated. I haven't used Cascade, Columbus or Chinook before. Well I used Chinook in my last batch but haven't tasted it yet. I most certainly have plenty of columbus, chinook and Amarillo (half a pound of each in fact) so can easily sub that in and take out the early cascade.

Or maybe even just take out the early cascade to bring the IBU's down a notch and leave it at that.
 
If you do alter the bittering addition stick with all Columbus - lovely stuff.
 
I agree with bum and browndog.

Firstly, that proportion of pale and munich looks good. Nice and malty. As with others, I like my malt bill to be english and my hop profile american - I reckon it makes a great IPA combo. I think it needs some crystal to balance the bitterness. Nothing too much, you could even get away with 100-200g just to even it out a bit. I also like my IPA's with a toasty touch, so some amber or brown malt would go well. But assuming you're not going to change the malt bill...

Ditch the Cascade as a bittering hop. Personally I like Amarillo for bittering, but I haven't used Columbus.
 
You need crystal, 5 - 7% of dark since you are bittering with Columbus. AIPA's also can have a few points of Carapils.
 

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