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Sounds good guys, but I can't find any info on this new release. The link in the first post doesn't work for me.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? Or is this the only info available?

"Camra presents a new edition of its complete guide to home brewing. The perennial favourite of home brewers, "Complete Home Brewing" is a CAMRA classic. This third edition is completely updated and revised to offer in-depth brewing advice to novice home-brewers looking to advance in their hobby, or to experienced home-brewers wanting to perfect their skills. Complete with step-by-step instructions, detailed chapters on subjects like hops and yeast, a colour section illustrating equipment set-up, and recipes to try, "CAMRA's Complete Home Brewing" is the essential guidebook for anyone wanting to pursue this fascinating hobby."
 
the book was released in 2009 !September......look at the OP
 
the book was released in 2009 !September......look at the OP


not the same book that they are talking about in the two posts above yours, so pointing them back there won't help.

Looks like they are using this thread as a place to hear about some good books, not necessarily just the first book mentioned in the original post.
 
Thread dredge or not, as an Australian and a BIABer, I've boycotted the books regardless and won't even get them out of the library, nor recommend any of the recipes. Link. Here, I'll save you the trouble:
"If Chris said something along the lines that the average Aussie would not know a quality beer if it hit him in the face, then if BIAB is anything to go by, I'd be inclined to agree."
******** is a term which immediately comes to mind, only with some restraint...
 
not the same book that they are talking about in the two posts above yours, so pointing them back there won't help.

Looks like they are using this thread as a place to hear about some good books, not necessarily just the first book mentioned in the original post.


Has just inspired me to lash out and get a few more books ...oh and pre order this book.The second ed that i have is from 1993 and was my bible for a long time and i still go back to it.I made one of his bitters as my first all grain beers and got 39.5/50 in a local comp.

also ordering Mild Ale
Brewing better beer released 11 may 2011
Brew your own real british ale

that will make it 10 new brewing books so far this year...any excuse to not do study for my DIP.
 
Which is why it is quoted verbatim manticle, the fact that not everyone has an account on Jim's is appreciated. I'm sure those that do will alert us if there's a misquote.
 
RdeVjun: Wasn't sure if there was more of interest to read (including what it was responding to).

Was interested in reading the opinion of someone who presumably has never tried BIABing or a BIAB beer who somehow feels justified to can it. That includes the earlier and later responses.

Shitcanning effective tried and true methods one has not tried oneself never ceases to amuse me.

Maybe I'll join just so I can read more.
 
No problem manticle. If you're interested, that thread was quite heated at times and revolved around the circumstances of a particularly long- standing and otherwise highly- regarded member's 'exile' after suggesting that BIAB was an utter abomination (paraphrasing, said member seemed to take issue in no uncertain terms with no middle ground) and no end of what was simply abuse. It was in fact what prompted me to sign up there, seeing as I'm a pillow caser and all.
Actually, if I'm not mistaken it seems said author does actually 'admit' to BIABing in the past, at least in the manner that was suggested by Dave Line some decades ago. However, the blinkers seem to be on now, no matter how many observations and anecdotes of success are served up, not to mention the mistaken premises. And as far as the slur on Australians goes, well, I really don't need to say any more, that sort of **** is juvenile and just beyond belief for someone who expects us to buy their books. As an aside, the owner was asked to intervene, citing the board's terms, non- committed agreement with the complaint was forthcoming, however I suspect he felt a peculiar sensation in the wherever and the post remains...
Now, if you'll pardon me, I think today's episode of the Streisand Effect (well, of a fashion!) is done and dusted!
 
Joined, read the thread, wish I didn't.

As new as I am to AG brewing, all things considered, the BIAB vs whatever brewing method debate is a tedious as trying to make an enjoyable dessert from acrylic paint.

I am assuming the aussie comment was tongue in cheek and feel no major insult to my patriotic side.
 
Wow, speed reader by any chance? It is indeed some of the most tedious reading after the fact, however it makes you wonder why said member got all worked up and spat the dummy...
We decide for ourselves though. I have.
 
Just to bring this post back to the book.... I'm confused, how does "CAMRA's Complete Home Brewing" differ from "Brew Your Own British Real Ale"????

Both by the same Author, I assume both regarding British Real Ales?

Which would be the best buy?
 
Just to bring this post back to the book.... I'm confused, how does "CAMRA's Complete Home Brewing" differ from "Brew Your Own British Real Ale"????

Both by the same Author, I assume both regarding British Real Ales?

Which would be the best buy?


I don't own any of them, have never read any of them, never seen a copy of them in real life.

I would assume though that by title alone, the "complete Home brewing" book would be more encompassing and a complete text as opposed to being style specific like i would expect "brew your own british real ale" would be.

May pay more for the complete home brewing perhaps? as i said i don't know....just my expectations.
 
The problem is that if it's like Brew Your Own Real Ale, the typical recipe will read:

3570g Pale Ale Malt
125g Black Malt

47g Northdown in the boil
23g Goldings 10 minutes


So, Maris Otter? Perle?
and what yeast? Hang on that's right S-04

:unsure:

GW says he does not recommend malts as breweries change the mix all the time according to the season, and for some reason he does not suggest yeasts either.
 
The problem is that if it's like Brew Your Own Real Ale, the typical recipe will read:

So, Maris Otter? Perle?
and what yeast? Hang on that's right S-04

:unsure:

GW says he does not recommend malts as breweries change the mix all the time according to the season, and for some reason he does not suggest yeasts either.

I was looking at it when it first came out, but read from other reviewers that the recipes do not list the colour ratings for the various malts included. "crystal malt" is not especially useful when a range of crystal malt from 10 L through 135 L and higher is available. While there has been good success with British Crystal 77 L from Simpsons, this is surely not the malt that all commercial brewers use for all their beers.

In cases where independent, reliable source exists for a brewery formula, Wheeler's recipe is often substantially different. Riggwelter from Black Sheep, for instance, is listed as containing sugar, but when interviewed on The Jamil Show on 3/29/2010, the head brewer claimed that sugar was not in the formula for Riggwelter. Additionally, from tasting comments in the same program, it was clear that a major flavor of the beer was contributed by pale chocolate malt (around 200 L), whereas Wheeler seems to have achieved the same color using a smaller amount of higher kilned chocolate malt (around 400 L), which would contribute a substantially different flavour.

In another recipe, Adnams Explorer is listed as using exclusively Liberty hops, but Adnams claims to be using Columbus and Chinook on their own website; Liberty and Chinook are pretty dissimilar hops. Some of the variation surely comes from the revision of commercial formulas over time, but these examples don't inspire confidence in the accuracy of the recipes as a whole. Other recipes, like those for Fullers ESB and London Pride---see data given by Fullers in the the Sept/Oct 2008 issue of Zymurgy---and Worthington White Shield, seem to be spot on, but about half of the recipes in the book for which independent sources for them exist seem to be substantially different.

I did not end up buying the book after that and other reviews but think it would still be a good book for getting into the styles instead of looking for accurate clones.

Cheers,
Brewer Pete
 
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