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Jack of all biers said:
Do you know of any in the south of Adelaide Grott?
Korvest is probably the biggest company (but not in the south) and I believe offer technical advice. A Class Metal Finishers at Lonsdale has a good reputation and specialise in restoration work. They pickle etc.
Hopes this helps
 
Ok, cracked into my LC pale ale tonight , been in mini for 3 weeks. Metallic taste , yuck tipped straight away. Had to run into town and grab a slab of cricketers arms pale ale which was the best priced pale at the bottleshop. Buying slabs hurts when got heaps at home but these minis have kept me poor over our camp trip lol

3 minis, no good beer

Cheers
 
Havnt had a chance to check any of mine yet, RIS in one still tastes good but how the hell you'd pick it in there is beyond me..

Zman, please add me to the pm so I can keep over issues
 
Cricketers arms is not a bad drop btw

Anyway , yeah a Ris would mask it abit

My Aussie lager and rice lager were the worst but these are crisp light flavoured anyway
My LC pale ale we tried tonight is closer to a IPA was ok first sip but then the metallic taste showed its ugly head
It's a very hopped brew and been one of my staples on tap at home it's been one of my favourites including mates
My close mate and his wife who are way with us this week has had many before and picked it up sarvo when we poured 2 glasses
I think this keg must be the worst out of my lot, because my first mini was metallic but slightly with a rice style lager , we managed to drink it first night away but its last few glasses had to be tipped.
Second mini had a Aussie lager which made you spray it out after first glass, undrinkable
9 ltr Italian keg, same rice lager as mini as they were both pressure filled from my kegmenter, was awesome , mini version not so
Third mini today , yuk , spewing as we all felt like a few tonight of this fine ale

Anyway , I'll be home this weekend , will do rice tests etc and contact retailer

Cheers
 
I've just filled 2x5L mini kegs from bulk buy MKIII, so I will update once carbed.
One is a Belgian Wit other is American Amber ale.
Both naturally carbing.
 
Yob said:
Havnt had a chance to check any of mine yet, RIS in one still tastes good but how the hell you'd pick it in there is beyond me..
Yob's fix: fill with RIS,
 
mtb, on 07 Apr 2017 - 3:13 PM, said:
mtb said:
On a different tangent Beerkat - are you guys looking to stock the 10L "mini" kegs like those sold here? Faults aside (and maybe after all this is sorted out) I reckon a fair few people would get on board, seeing as they would assumedly take the same fittings as their smaller counterparts.
Hey MTB we are looking at stocking the 10L, we tried to get them in last year but they weren't manufacturing them yet. They do take the same fittings. We'll keep you posted!
wide eyed and legless, on 07 Apr 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

wide eyed and legless said:
Ikegger? Now that is a brand conspicuous by its absence in the rusted kegs saga, maybe the few extra dollars spent could have saved a lot of heart ache in these purchases. Anyone had a problem with Ikegger?
We use the same supplier. As advised previously and communicated directly with each customer affected, we are working to find a solution with our supplier. Overall we have had a minimal number of kegs showing this issue from the same batch and we hope to have a solution asap. We appreciate the support of AHB.

Trying to get my head around why if you are using the same supplier as Ikegger, and Ikegger is already selling the 10 litre, why would that same supplier tell you they are not manufacturing them yet?
For me that would be the second reason I would be getting on a flight to China, the first being to sort out the poor quality with the manufacturer, to be able to sell a product or service, you MUST have confidence that the product is sound. The first report of a problem keg would have dented my confidence, the second would be causing me great concern, the rusty kegs coming out of China has been reported from18 months ago so it is nothing new.
I discounted the idea it was because you are a new business just starting, and whether they are trying it on, but I would definitely be sorting it all out over in China, even think about getting an agent.
 
wide eyed and legless said:
mtb, on 07 Apr 2017 - 3:13 PM, said:

Hey MTB we are looking at stocking the 10L, we tried to get them in last year but they weren't manufacturing them yet. They do take the same fittings. We'll keep you posted!
wide eyed and legless, on 07 Apr 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:


We use the same supplier. As advised previously and communicated directly with each customer affected, we are working to find a solution with our supplier. Overall we have had a minimal number of kegs showing this issue from the same batch and we hope to have a solution asap. We appreciate the support of AHB.

Trying to get my head around why if you are using the same supplier as Ikegger, and Ikegger is already selling the 10 litre, why would that same supplier tell you they are not manufacturing them yet?
For me that would be the second reason I would be getting on a flight to China, the first being to sort out the poor quality with the manufacturer, to be able to sell a product or service, you MUST have confidence that the product is sound. The first report of a problem keg would have dented my confidence, the second would be causing me great concern, the rusty kegs coming out of China has been reported from18 months ago so it is nothing new.
I discounted the idea it was because you are a new business just starting, and whether they are trying it on, but I would definitely be sorting it all out over in China, even think about getting an agent.
WEAL you seem to be rather invested in our business which seems questionable...in any case, just so you can get you're head around it, last year we enquired with our manufacturer about the option of making 10L kegs, at the time they were unable to however they are now manufacturing them and have been available from the beginning of this year. Stocking them is purely a commercial decision for our company as we haven't had as much interest or enquiries for larger kegs or the 10L. Any quality issues in any business is a concern. As already advised we are working directly with our supplier and manufacturer regarding the small batch that have experienced issues and working closely with the customers affected as are the other retailers affected.
 
It certainly is looking like a batch problem. The spreadsheet has not grown that much and of the people added to the PM, less than a half have made an entry.

Really looking forward to the MKIV deliveries this week and next.

That, coupled with the regulator issues, would make me say our suppliers are worth supporting in any and all cases. They have only done the same for us.

And that's what all of this is about.
 
+1 to zorco. I personally have had nothing but great communication from beerkat both on ahb and personally re this issue and prior to fault detection. They have bent over backwards to accommodate customer requests for non stocked items. I don't think they can be knocked in that department
 
sent Mark@ATHB an email asking what the go is with regards to my dodgy 2L

Havent received a response though (likely busy with bulk buy).. So not sure what the ATHB solution or supplier feedback is yet though
 
Jack of all biers said:
+1 to zorco. I personally have had nothing but great communication from beerkat both on ahb and personally re this issue and prior to fault detection. They have bent over backwards to accommodate customer requests for non stocked items. I don't think they can be knocked in that department
Agree 100%, both Beerkat and ATHB have been fantastic through all this.

Still to give my kegs the test of time (with a brew in them for at least 1 month)
 
Zorco said:
It certainly is looking like a batch problem. The spreadsheet has not grown that much and of the people added to the PM, less than a half have made an entry.
I think that alot of the possibly effected buyers (including myself) have not yet rice tested theirs and don't know if they are in the boat yet.

I'll do mine on the weekend and see if there is another on the list.
 
True, though the main hypothesis is that the black product is iron oxide or potentially another oxide which we are very sensitive to.

I would imagine tasting is the first clue.

But the more people aware and looking the better
 
Digga said:
I think that alot of the possibly effected buyers (including myself) have not yet rice tested theirs and don't know if they are in the boat yet.

I'll do mine on the weekend and see if there is another on the list.
I did not notice discoloration with the rice test but definitely metallic taste to beer and dark looking spot welds etc. So yeah don't get too excited if you do that.
I think people who haven't yet filled theirs with beer would be right to be hesitant.
 
for the sake of QC, I had to go check on the Imperial Cider ive got in a 5lt... seems fine but Im gunna have another to be sure..

testing continues
 
Liam_snorkel said:
I think people who haven't yet filled theirs with beer would be right to be hesitant.
Hesitant should be the opposite of what people feel.

Rooting out the problem and enjoying the support from the retailers is ahead of everyone.

If anyone has a problem let me know and I'll add you to the PM where you can register your problem (Beerkat or ATHB) and most importantly, upload your evidence onto the google drive... the suppliers have direct access to it all for their conversations with their suppliers.

Don't hesitate, and be aware of the statistics. Of the hundred or so (I forget MKI numbers) kegs sold, about 10 have been registered as having a problem. All from the MKII/MKIII buys (same order from China). Zero so far from MKI...... so far.

This too shall pass

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qybUFnY7Y8w
 

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