Lion introduces "Tap King" - party keg / growlers

[Bentnose]

I found the o ring would be shagged out when the bottle is taken off, in all cases the o ring has returned back to its normal size. Their size seems to be dependant on temperature or something, after a good wash and reassemble a few days later they've always been back to normal. Strangely I was given bottles were the o ring was shagged out, after a full dismantle of the head and wash in hot water, the o ring had returned to normal size by the next day. I've got 16 bottles and no issues so far.

 

[FreeBaseBuzz]

according to the post below, the o-ring becomes saturated with gas. Thats what could be happening here

http://aussiehomebrewer.com/topic/75424-using-8g-co2-soda-bulbs-in-your-tap-king/?p=1090193



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[Rocker1986]

I just bottled some of my latest batch into my TK bottle, and I noticed when I inverted it that a tiny drip of beer escaped through the hole where the beer line comes from inside the bottle. Will this mean that it isn't sealed completely and therefore won't carb in the bottle? Is the "lid over the lid" when you first buy them some sort of seal against it de-gassing? There weren't any leaks anywhere else in it, just from that hole. :unsure:

 

[barls]

No leaks at any of mine that I refilled


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[Beerisyummy]

My guess would be a missing spring or valve in the lid causing the problem.

The only real use for the top cover is to keep muck out of the beer/gas connections.
They are also good for labelling I suppose.

 

[Rocker1986]

Hmm. Well I know there was no missing parts anywhere. I put the two springs in their holes in the part that holds the CO2 canister and put those little plastic things on top and then put the top section over this and pushed down to keep it in place. Maybe I put those plastic things in the wrong way around. I had them in so that the smaller end went into the springs and the larger end facing up. Is that right or does the large end go into the springs? I can't remember which way they were when I took it apart.

 

[Beerisyummy]

Sounds like you got it right.
I think maybe something like a hair could cause the same problem.

Worst case you'll have to by a fresh bottle.

 

[Rocker1986]

Fair enough. Oh well I guess I'll just have to wait and see whether the bottle goes hard over the next week or two and figure it out then. I'm close to Dans so getting a new bottle won't be a problem... drinking the crap in it might be though. :lol:

 

[Rocker1986]

Actually, I take all that back. The bottle is already feeling harder than when I filled it yesterday, tried the invert test again and this time no leaks anywhere. I'm thinking that little drip yesterday might have just been a bit of sanitizer that I sprayed on it prior to filling.

 

[redbeard]

Woolworths opp Town Hall Syd have the head unit for $16.50 (1st floor).

 

[LarryNobb]

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[Bridges]

I Was in liqourland Wangaratta yesterday they were selling a heap of the tap king bottles at 50% off. 10 bucks for the crappier beers per bottle and 18 bucks for the golden ale or boags premium. They must not be moving as well as lion hoped. At least in Wangaratta anyhow. Haven't seen this elsewhere, not that I've looked.

 

[primusbrew]

The ezy chargers website has some new 12g CO2 chargers up. http://www.ezychargers.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=51&products_id=583

Apparently they are the exact same as the ones that come in the Tap King bottles: "Ezychargers CO2 chargers food grade are filled with 100% pure CO2. This is the same charger, made by the same manufacture for the Tap King system. Ideal for re-gassing your Tap King for your home brew."

I have just placed an order.

 

[Bentnose]

The ezy chargers website has some new 12g CO2 chargers up. http://www.ezychargers.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=51&products_id=583

Apparently they are the exact same as the ones that come in the Tap King bottles: "Ezychargers CO2 chargers food grade are filled with 100% pure CO2. This is the same charger, made by the same manufacture for the Tap King system. Ideal for re-gassing your Tap King for your home brew."

I have just placed an order.

I just ordered 100 of them.

 

[bradsbrew]

At $9.50 I might just stock up on a few of these bottles, tip the contents into a keg then refill with homebrew for Chrissy parties and the lids are new .

 

[suchidog]

Wow has anyone seen this stuff going cheap in Townsville? I have looked around without success

 

[Bridges]

I saw them cheap in liqourland, the stickers on bradsbrew's one is a liqourland sticker. I'd start at liqourland.

 

[bradsbrew]

The ones I grabbed are past their best by date.

 

[bradsbrew]

Just got 2 boxes of 2 for $17.50 a box, yep $8.75 for 3.2L bottle. Silly thing is I just paid $5.20 for a schooner at the bar with dinner. The guy at the bottlo was adamant that I need a tap unit to use the bottles. I was so close to showing him that It is just a big stubbie and the lid comes off easily, but I will wait until I grab a few more bottles on Friday before heading home.

 

[Rocker1986]

Well my first foray into using home brew in these things was mostly a success. I did have a couple of minor issues, firstly even though the bottle was rock hard, the beer wasn't very carbonated. Secondly, it did start to spring a bit of a leak through the CO2 canister hole, nothing dramatic and the bottle didn't really lose any hardness. I'm wondering if this was due to too much pressure buildup, though my priming rate for the batch only worked out at about 16g in the TK bottle, a bit over 5g/L.
But next time I use it I am gonna try chilling down and carefully pouring already carbed beer into it and sealing it up, sticking it in the fridge for half an hour or so to get it back to fridge temp then hooking it up to the dispenser to see how that method goes.

 

[pressure_tested]

Has anyone had issues with it just dispensing foam after the first couple of beers? I'm using 12g Mosa with all original packaging - just replaced the co2.
Could be that my beer is not very clear and it's clogging the unit?

 

[barls]

Did you adjust the reg.



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[Beerisyummy]

Has anyone had issues with it just dispensing foam after the first couple of beers? I'm using 12g Mosa with all original packaging - just replaced the co2.
Could be that my beer is not very clear and it's clogging the unit?

I would be looking at temperature and carbonation levels. It sounds like you over carbed the beer as that's pretty much what happens with a normal keg.

Like Barls said, you can adjust the reg to help reduce the foaming. Another trick would be to back the reg right back, turn the on it's head and degas the bottle using the tap. Once you've done that you should be able to give it a shake and get some of the CO2 out of solution.

 

[Rocker1986]

Never had that problem with mine. In fact because the beer was lowly carbed it actually poured a rather creamy head, similar to what you get on a Guinness from the tap. Wasn't complaining about that! Being an English style ale the lower carb level suited it too. Though I would have preferred a bit more carbonation than there was.

 

[pressure_tested]

It's literally spitting out a bit of foam only. No beer. (I know the foam is beer but this is so far from liquid). I might try the reg but didn't want to break it apart. I might try that other suggestion as well.
It's possible it's over carbed. Pouring at fridge temps and carbonated 2 weeks with 8 carb drops. (Bulk priming has never worked well for me because I'm impatient.)

Same thing happened to my friend who I gave one from the same batch.


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[Beerisyummy]

It's literally spitting out a bit of foam only. No beer. (I know the foam is beer but this is so far from liquid). I might try the reg but didn't want to break it apart. I might try that other suggestion as well.
It's possible it's over carbed. Pouring at fridge temps and carbonated 2 weeks with 8 carb drops. (Bulk priming has never worked well for me because I'm impatient.)

Same thing happened to my friend who I gave one from the same batch.


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If it's that over carbed I don't think the regulator trick will work very well. Better to do the upside down bottle trick.
By the sounds of it you may actually have an infected batch that has dropped well below the expected FG. Does it taste ok?

To access the regulator you can just cut/drill a hole in the top of the unit. There are plenty of pics in the various TK threads that show how.
I future you can avoid all this trouble and just do it the really impatient mans way. Force carb the bottle with a couple of bulbs.
There should be a step by step in my thread on using the 8gr bulbs.

In th

 

[pressure_tested]

Thanks for your help. I just realised I've been a saying foam when I should be saying foam plus heaps of co2. Hence why I feel like it may have jammed.

That said, it does have a funny homebrew flavour that I don't usually get. Maybe diacetal or dms.


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[Beerisyummy]

Thanks for your help. I just realised I've been a saying foam when I should be saying foam plus heaps of co2. Hence why I feel like it may have jammed.

That said, it does have a funny homebrew flavour that I don't usually get. Maybe diacetal or dms.


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Could it be that the dip tub has come off?

 

[barls]

I'm going with some hop matter partially blocking the nozzle


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[Beerisyummy]

I'm going with some hop matter partially blocking the nozzle


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I'd take you up on that bet if I could Barls!

I've got the real cause of the problem figured out now. It's a hard reality, one that we all have to deal with at some stage of our kegging/keglette careers.
Your keg is dry mate, and your probably quite pissed right now.
Yes, you feel like there should be more left, but that bastard tap just keeps on spewing forth foam and CO2. The proof is that you keep on trying to get more, when in fact, the keg is empty.

My advice is to avoid motor vehicles and heavy machinery for the next 24hrs. Spend the time brewing more beer and feel proud to have drained your first keg!