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Pretty rare thing to happen. But you are right. No place is immune
 
wide eyed and legless said:
Obama is a left leaning atheist,
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What's your evidentiary source for this claim? In order for something to be true requires more than someone just saying it is the case. Do you have any more outrageous claims without supporting evidence? The next thing, you will be trying to tell us that there is a fundamental difference between the Liberal and Labor parties.
 
goomboogo said:
What's your evidentiary source for this claim? In order for something to be true requires more than someone just saying it is the case. Do you have any more outrageous claims without supporting evidence? The next thing, you will be trying to tell us that there is a fundamental difference between the Liberal and Labor parties.
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WEAL has all his evidence in the Goodbye Bronwyn thread
 
wide eyed and legless said:
Well Obama isn't going to come out and declare himself an atheist, but at least he doesn't say as other presidents have done,"Last night I spoke to god" he tries to come across as tough but he is just a straw man.
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That reminds me of an amusing quote from "Letter to a Christian Nation".

“The president of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim more ridiculous or offensive.”
 
Isnt the President of the United States actually God....according to Americans...?
 
Dave70 said:
Do you get a free politician with that steak knife?
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Comes with a free Australian prime minister of the moment - collect them all.
 
Ducatiboy stu said:
There is something seriously wrong with that amount of shooting.

How can anyone even try to justify it
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Population cull. Kill all the gun hoarders (or religious fanatics, anti-abortion extremists, or just the violent rednecks)

Or preferably no-one... Not sure I should be making a joke of this, but that's the Australian way, is it not?
 
Dave70 said:
Then he's the worst kind of atheist. Virtually every speech I've cringed through he pesters god to bless his country. He publicly identifies as a Protestant Christian. I think he's actually more right than people thing, or at least has become throughout his term. This is the US, how could you not?
Putin an ex - KGB thug who specialized in counter intelligence and seemingly couldn't give a **** who likes him. Obama is a rock star president who knows how to read a speech from a teleprompter make it sound like a Grammy winning performance. He'll be more a migraine than headache.


A forced smile if ever there was one.

Putin must be thinking 'I could hip toss this ************ in a hot second'.

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I'm getting the impression that at least a few of you think that this photo is of two guys with a huge knob in their hand.
You may be right, but is this not running off-topic?
 
goomboogo said:
What's your evidentiary source for this claim? In order for something to be true requires more than someone just saying it is the case. Do you have any more outrageous claims without supporting evidence? The next thing, you will be trying to tell us that there is a fundamental difference between the Liberal and Labor parties.
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Well Obama more than once has admitted to being a socialist, as for an atheist that is something where one has to draw their own conclusions from the facts provided, Obama had never been a church member until he put his plans into the long game of getting somewhere in politics, then he joined a church group, before that he had never even gone to church, even the Reverend of the church he belonged to admitted he wasn't a church person and when asked if Obama was a Christian he said he didn't know.

So the ploy of being a Christian was a means to an end, much like the Catholic Priests, who claim to be Christian and go through holy orders in their ultimate goal to sodomize young boys. Obama was never going to run for Presidency on an atheist ticket, he would have fallen at the first fence.
 
I was referring more to the atheist part more than the socialist part. But on the socialist claim, my interpretation is Obama wouldn't know what socialism is, let alone be an advocate for the concept. I don't discount your supposition regarding his relationship with religion. However, it is only supposition and there is no way we can claim he is an atheist based on available evidence. If finding religion was merely part of a bigger political goal, this would be the action of a person more individualist than socialist.

I can really see Obama's religious affiliations being more about political pragmatism than genuine faith. If he is prepared to carry on such a charade then he doesn't possess the integrity to uphold a true socialist ideal.
 
Even socialists and communist as they get higher up the chain give away the ideals they were brought up to believe in, the last 2 premiers of China are worth billions, and then there is Putin, they are all in it for an individual goal.

And the fundamental difference between the labor party and the liberal party, liberals can stop the boats.
 

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