Latest school shooting in the USA

[pcmfisher]

Bottom line is mass shootings account for a drop in the bucket in relation to actual firearms homicide in the US. About eleven thousand per year. By far and away the most deaths are the result of suicide, almost twenty two thousand. Why the outrage now? People are dying via firearms at the rate of give or take ninety two people per day.
Obama, is full of ****. Honestly, he can sign off and mobilize the most powerful army on the planet to fight on multiple fronts on foreign shores, yet cant ban automatic weapons in his own country?
Is that what the office of president is worth?

My guess is this will last a few news cycles. There will be the typical hue and cry from the usual suspects, the retort or 'guns dont kill people', then it will be back to business as usual.

This seventeenth century second amendment right to form militias and bear arms is simply ******* ******** and has about as much relevance in modern society as first century religion.
Just so long as 'rights' aren't infringed upon, thats all that counts.

All this is correct. You beat me to it.
Obama is full of ****.
Nothing will change.

I am surprised he has lasted as long as he has. Remaining vertical that is.
If he did try and make a change someone would take him out.

 

[jyo]

Tragic news. I have no idea what sort of cultural shift it will take to change people's obsession with guns in the US.
In a country where roughly 40% of the population believe that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, I hold little hope that we'll be seeing any logical or rational moves to limiting gun access to civilians.

 

[SBOB]

Obama, is full of ****. Honestly, he can sign off and mobilize the most powerful army on the planet to fight on multiple fronts on foreign shores, yet cant ban automatic weapons in his own country?
Is that what the office of president is worth?

thats because both sides of the house agree to drop bombs, but try and do something controversial like gun law reform and watch the Republicans loose their minds

 

[Bribie G]

Tragic news. I have no idea what sort of cultural shift it will take to change people's obsession with guns in the US.
In a country where roughly 40% of the population believe that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, I hold little hope that we'll be seeing any logical or rational moves to limiting gun access to civilians.

Roughly 40% of the Australian cabinet believe that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old as well.

 

[Diesel80]

Roughly 40% of the Australian cabinet believe that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old as well.

Bloody misogynists!

Cheers
D80

 

[Dave70]

Roughly 40% of the Australian cabinet believe that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old as well.

What margin of error does 'roughly' allow for?

Our 27th prime minister was an left leaning atheist with a ****** elected unopposed by her peers.

Try running for office in the US with those credentials and see how far you get.

 

[sponge]

Try running for office in the US with those credentials and see how far you get.

We'll wait and see if Trump gets in..

 

[Eagleburger]

What margin of error does 'roughly' allow for?

Our 27th prime minister was an left leaning atheist with a ****** elected unopposed by her peers.

Try running for office in the US with those credentials and see how far you get.

God bless democracy.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

What margin of error does 'roughly' allow for?

Our 27th prime minister was an left leaning atheist with a ****** elected unopposed by her peers.

Try running for office in the US with those credentials and see how far you get.

Obama is a left leaning atheist, not sure about his sexual organ, but I think Putin is about to give him a bigger headache than what the gun lobby is, waste of time talking about the shootings on a campus, it is now part of the way of life in America.
Obama has got to be one of the weakest presidents USA haS ever had, I doubt very much he will do anything now either, standing up to the Russians and getting the middle east sorted, or staring down the gun lobby, he has less than 18 months left in office so he will do what he always has done and hope that things will just go away.

 

[Dave70]

God bless democracy.

And caucus ballots. Followed by leadership spills. Then federal elections.

 

[DU99]

Is it a Status thing now.not a Constitution one.Let someone go into congress with automatic weapon pop a few off.see what happen's..Like a knee jerk reaction locking the pilots door,what happened there.WAKE UP America...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

then this grap
http://americangunfacts.com/

end of my 2 Cents

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

And caucus ballots. Followed by leadership spills. Then federal elections.

 

[Dave70]

Obama is a left leaning atheist, not sure about his sexual organ, but I think Putin is about to give him a bigger headache than what the gun lobby is, waste of time talking about the shootings on a campus, it is now part of the way of life in America.
Obama has got to be one of the weakest presidents USA haS ever had, I doubt very much he will do anything now either, standing up to the Russians and getting the middle east sorted, or staring down the gun lobby, he has less than 18 months left in office so he will do what he always has done and hope that things will just go away.

Then he's the worst kind of atheist. Virtually every speech I've cringed through he pesters god to bless his country. He publicly identifies as a Protestant Christian. I think he's actually more right than people thing, or at least has become throughout his term. This is the US, how could you not?
Putin an ex - KGB thug who specialized in counter intelligence and seemingly couldn't give a **** who likes him. Obama is a rock star president who knows how to read a speech from a teleprompter make it sound like a Grammy winning performance. He'll be more a migraine than headache.


A forced smile if ever there was one.

Putin must be thinking 'I could hip toss this ************ in a hot second'.

 

[Exile]

Interesting article on the 2nd:

Many are startled to learn that the U.S. Supreme Court didn’t rule that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual’s right to own a gun until 2008, when District of Columbia v. Heller struck down the capital’s law effectively banning handguns in the home. In fact, every other time the court had ruled previously, it had ruled otherwise. Why such a head-snapping turnaround? Don’t look for answers in dusty law books or the arcane reaches of theory.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856#ixzz3nMvl9eT6

Problem is the Second Amendment was written when they had flintlock guns etc.
Different story now days

 

[Tex N Oz]

The topic of gun control is just political fodder. Never gonna happen. It can't happen.
They've given estimates of over 750,000,000 guns sitting in the hands of US residence and another 500,000,000 guns in the hands of the cartel in Mexico ready to come over..
When they do gun polls to find out how many guns there are, they suspect that 25% of those who say they "don't" actually "do" and the ones who say "1" gun may actually have "many". That stuff is pretty secretive over there and one's not likely to spill the beans to some random on the phone.
A gun "collection" wouldn't go down very well either. I'm pretty sure the government wouldn't want to open that can of worms as civil unrest would quickly arise and they wouldn't have enough bodies to throw at it.

American culture is very different than here.

I'm happy to walk down the road here in Sydney with little chance of a personal violation, however, when in the states, I never leave home without my Sig P320.
You have to realise that the tipping point has been passed in the US. there is no going back.

 

[Bribie G]

Wow is a Sig P320 any good on feral goats? You wouldn't believe the price of farmed goat meat and my curry gland is throbbing for some goat sustenance.

 

[Tex N Oz]

Wow is a Sig P320 any good on feral goats? You wouldn't believe the price of farmed goat meat and my curry gland is throbbing for some goat sustenance.

If ya got close enough? Goat is the best.. I make Mexican smoked goat tacos and the family smashes it. Last lot was 10 people, 2 full hind legs, 30 minutes it was GONE.. But yeah, it was $60.
If you can get a license for a rifle, a .240 makes a great goat gun. Good accuracy but doesn't travel to hell and back, offering a bit of safety.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Well Obama isn't going to come out and declare himself an atheist, but at least he doesn't say as other presidents have done,"Last night I spoke to god" he tries to come across as tough but he is just a straw man.

 

[Tex N Oz]

Well Obama isn't going to come out and declare himself an atheist, but at least he doesn't say as other presidents have done,"Last night I spoke to god" he tries to come across as tough but he is just a straw man.

All US presidents are straw men. They have to get permission to wipe their ***** mate. No one person wields ultimate power.
They can however start a war and sometimes I think they get bored and bring out their own guns.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Australia doesnt have a gun problem, and hopefully, we never will

Personally I dont see the need for Joe Average to have a gun, but nothing wrong with owning them for sporting purposes and animal control

I had a bit of a think about all the people I have meet over the years and not that many own guns, purely because there is no point, unless you have a reason or purpose and that is something I dont have a problem with

Our laws are very different here. The Police take a very tough stand against those who are not licensed, to the point you are looking at jail time. And that is a good thing.

We are lucky than gun related incidences here are few and far between, lot to do with our society in general, lot to do with the way are laws are structered.

Even our Police forces dont go around shooting people like they do in the USA. If a Police officer here fires a weapon all hell breaks loose. And that is a good thing