Help And Suggestions Ipa

[Andrew Clark]

Hi all
Just formulated this recipe for brewing this weekend, any suggestions would be appreciated.
thanks in advance
regards
Andrew


Andrew's IPA
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 21/02/2004
Style: India Pale Ale Brewer: Andrew Clark
Batch Size: 21.50 L Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 23.57 L Boil Time: 60 min
Equipment: Andrew's Mash Equipment Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.0 %
Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 kg Pale Ale Malt (4 EBC) Grain 87.0 %
0.35 kg Melanoiden Malt (75 EBC) Grain 6.1 %
0.25 kg Wheat Malt Malt Craft (4 EBC) Grain 4.3 %
0.15 kg Amber Malt (44 EBC) Grain 2.6 %
45.00 gm Pride of Ringwood [10.0%] (60 min) Hops 42.9 IBU
15.00 gm Pride of Ringwood [10.0%] (20 min) Hops 8.7 IBU
15.00 gm Pride of Ringwood [10.0%] (10 min) Hops 5.2 IBU
15.00 gm Saaz [4.5%] (1 min) Hops 0.3 IBU
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs English Ale (White Labs #WLP002) [Starter 1000 ml] Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.056 SG (1.050-1.075 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.018 SG (1.012-1.016 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Color: 15 EBC (16-28 EBC) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 57.0 IBU (40.0-65.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 3.7 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 4.9 % (5.0-7.8 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 0.6 %
Actual Calories per 12 oz: 32 cal


Mash Profile Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out Mash Tun Weight: 3.50 kg
Mash Grain Weight: 5.75 kg Mash PH: 5.4 PH
Grain Temperature: 22.2 C Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C
Sparge Water: 15.33 L Adjust Temp for Equipment: No

Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 15.00 L of water at 74.4 C 67.8 C 60 min


Mash Notes
Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage Carbonation Type: Corn Sugar Carbonation Volumes: 2.4 (1.6-2.4 vols)
Estimated Priming Weight: 121.8 gm Temperature at Bottling: 15.6 C
Primer Used: - Age for: 4.0 Weeks
Storage Temperature: 11.1 C

 

[GMK]

Looks good Andrew but i have some suggestions...

Do some mash tun hopping with 45 gms of POR in the mash tun.
Then add 20 gms of POR for first wort hopping - forget the 45gms for the 60min boil and then following the rest of the hop schedule except for...the Saaz for the final minute - IMHO that is a waste of time.

Rack after 10 days into the secondary and dry hop with 25 gms of Saaz for 2- 6 weeks cold conditioning.

 

[Jovial_Monk]

45IBU of POR will give a very harsh bittering indeed. Try not exceeding 20IBU with POR, use Goldings to add the rest of the bittering.

can you up your OG to 1070? (or even 1080?) for more traditional IPA

Saaz will give some aroma, the Poms used to use Bavarian hops sometimes in their IPAs, mebbe substitute Hallertau for the Saaz

Again, apart from the the POR, my other recommendations are solely suggestions to make your IPA more traditional.

Jovial Monk

 

[THE DRUNK ARAB]

I agree with JM (there's a first ) POR is only good up to 25IBU IMO, I brewed an Aussie ale at 30-35 IBU using POR and it was very harsh bitterness. Even after a year in the bottle the harshness is there, I tone it down with a splash of Bickfords lime cordial Nice on a hot summers day.

C&B
TDA

 

[Andrew Clark]

Thanks for the replies guys,

JM, I will up the malt to 1070, haven't got goldings but have fuggles so hope this will do.

GMK, will go with the mash hopping for the P.O.R as I have done this before and it does smooth out the bitterness, beersmith will help with the calcs.

TDA, I have an aussie ale on tap now with 30 IBU,s of POR, believe it or not this is the only beer I brew that my wife will drink, I don't mind it but it is a little coarse.
Thanks for the help guys.
Regards
Andrew

 

[PostModern]

I don't mean to be rude, but with POR and Saaz, I think "IPA" is a misnomer. If you're going to all the trouble in the grain bill, why not buy some traditional IPA hops? Anyway, what is your modified recipe looking like now?

 

[Andrew Clark]

So here is the new recipe.
Your not rude PM, Ive got Fuggles for authenticity, POR for bitterness. If this was brewed using only goldings or fuggles with there low aau's I would have 1/2 boiler of hops pellets which would be a bit hard to strain.The por are leaf hops which will help the flow.
Thanks all
Andrew


Andrew's IPA
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 21/02/2004
Style: India Pale Ale Brewer: Andrew Clark
Batch Size: 21.50 L Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 23.57 L Boil Time: 60 min
Equipment: Andrew's Mash Equipment Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.0 %
Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.5 kg Pale Ale Malt (4 EBC) Grain 87.0 %
0.35 kg Melanoiden Malt (75 EBC) Grain 6.1 %
0.25 kg Wheat Malt Malt Craft (4 EBC) Grain 4.3 %
20.00 gm Fuggles [5.0%] (60 min) (Mash Hop) Hops 2.1 IBU
0.15 kg Amber Malt (44 EBC) Grain 2.6 %
40.00 gm Pride of Ringwood [10.0%] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 41.9 IBU
20.00 gm Fuggles [5.0%] (60 min) Hops 10.6 IBU
15.00 gm Pride of Ringwood [10.0%] (10 min) Hops 5.2 IBU
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs English Ale (White Labs #WLP005) [Starter 1000 ml] Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.061 SG (1.050-1.075 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.018 SG (1.012-1.016 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Color: 15 EBC (16-28 EBC) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 59.8 IBU (40.0-65.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 3.7 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 4.9 % (5.0-7.8 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 0.6 %
Actual Calories per 12 oz: 32 cal

 

[Jazman]

bloody hell still a fair bit of por well if it weas me i woukld over do it csacade but then i like that hop