External pump is not really a solution, the aim is to transfer good clear wort into the fermenter leaving the break material and hop debris in the kettle. The helix is a top idea, if you are using 'no chill' you will get clear wort but as the wort cools the break material shows itself. I don't give up on things, there has to be a simple solution, I have tried a few different methods using the helix (including the external pump) but hopefully the method I used on my last transfer may be the way to go in getting as much clear wort as possible out of the kettle into the fermenter.WEAL. When you use the external pump/whirlpool setup do you still have the helix attached or have you flicked that with this method now? Thanks.