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CEO Keg King

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This is a post of mine from the fermentasaurus thread 19/01/20 "For some odd reason the float tubing supplied by both teams is rubbish, too thin walled and seems to split after a just a couple of months, talk about spoiling the ship for a penny worth of tar. Source some quality silicon off ebay. KL saurus and KK FKJ both have the same tubing and both fail/split. "shakes head"
Biased? anyone can check my comments, and make their own decision about any bias I have, as for your own personal fan bois, and their bias! well let's not go down that path.
You're getting on (like me) keep yer head down, don't breath near other people, and stay safe. Sparring partners become rarer as we age.
Hello Grmblz - really want to address your comment on free speech? Are you aware that we were kept off this forum for two years whilst those who you really give a lot of credit to had open slather and slammed us wherever they could? Two years not because of anything we did. Where does that leave your support for free speech young fella? Where were the people clamouring for a fair go for us? Love to hear your take on that.

Grmblz I am not into RaRaRa but I am into leading a bunch of good people who are doing some good stuff for homebrewers and manufacturing right here in Australia. We have half a dozen engineers who have worked hard to come up with products that help brewers all over the world and they do it in Melbourne and not in China. Yes we get some parts and products made in China because if we did not then we could not compete with those who do and people like you would never be able to afford anything. However our design and our PET fermenter manufacture is done right here and it keeps getting bigger and better. I welcome the current ideas of Australia doing more manufacturing again. Sadly our country has let it go so much that it will be hard. All the tool makers seem to be in their seventies or more and there is nowhere in the land where the young kids can learn. At least we do our bit by doing development and manufacturing which means skills are developed and used. Most of the team actually brew so they know where the problems are and love to solve them.

In regard to the porkies I don't think you needed Reg to come back. You can see that they were talking bullshit and had no idea what a super deluxe Kegerator actually was. They are a lot better value than the GDs I assure you although on checking I had found one bit of misinformation from my end. The interior of the SD is 304 and the exterior is 430. I think you would be happy with the quality of that steel. The GDs were always arriving with scratches from the factory and I had a lot of annoyance with that. Your friends put on their web site a statement about them being commercial and so some scratches and higher noise was part of the deal. For me that was not what I wanted to do and so we looked for something better but still at a reasonable price. The SD units come in a purpose built wooden crate and the castors are already attached. With the bigger GD units it was quite an effort for the user to fit the castors and involved heavy lifting.

Pity you are in Sydney and don't have the chance to pop by here. I have a feeling you might end up like many others once you found out a bit more and become part of a great bunch of friends here. As I said I have not banned you but I will ask questions to see if for some reason you do not have those privileges. I do know the administrator went through with a firehose some time ago and made sure that KL and associated accounts could not come on ours and the same in the other direction. I don't even bother to go there as I strive ever more to our own thing and not join races to the bottom. This has really given us a much better position in the market place and we are enjoying the wonderful response from our valued clients.

As I said I would be happy to buy you a beer and maybe I will get the chance once this virus thing relaxes its grip on the country. What do you reckon?
 

KegLand-com-au

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Wonder what got up someone's nose to come up with this load of drivel? If anyone is beating around the bush it would have to be the "mystery" person here who dares not put his name to the spouted pearls of assumptions and outright bullshit.

1. You could not have considered stocking this model as its simply not available to Kegland to stock. The supplier has an exclusive contract with Keg King to sell the product in Australia and New Zealand. Keg King also has rights in other territories but that is not of interest here.

2. The steel in the Super Deluxe is 304 and not 201 which you say without having a clue to what we are selling. 304 is generally used in most commercial environments and does not rust unless exposed to corrosive environments like marine spray.

3. The sound is not identical and you have obviously never heard it.

4. The Super Deluxe fridges have a 43 degree Celsius ambient rating which is way above anything the GD series can work efficiently at. The compressor, cooling fan and control system of the SD range are totally different from the GD products.

5. Despite your lack of doubt the CEO Keg King will not "object" to these comments but rightly dismisses them as childish attempts to score some cheap points with making up something and jumping to wrong conclusions.

So your points in order:
1. "It will rust" - NO IT WILL NOT
2. "The noise level is the same as the Grand Deluxe" - NO IT IS NOT AND IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MACHINE WHICH YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD
3. "You pay more for 201 stainless that will get surface rust on it if the surface is exposed to moisture" - YOU PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE ITS MADE OF 304 THAT DOES NOT RUST AND YOU WILL ALSO HAVE IT STAY THE SAME FOR MANY YEARS OF GOOD SERVICE"

So lets stick to the facts and see that for not much more a customer will get a superior product that works efficiently at higher temperatures and does not show the scratches that a powder coated panel will. Its stainless inside and outside. Even the GD stainless units are not stainless inside you will note. Just the outside and they are 201.

One of the ways in which we try to serve our clients better is to always look for something better. We found that with the GD range they suffered from scratches a lot and during our increasingly hot summers were struggling. So we found a better product and we think it will find great acceptance out there if the feedback from those who purchased them already is anything to go by.
It comes from the same factory and uses the same components. Seeing as you seem so confident it will not rust please let us know how we can purchase or get hold of a side panel from you and we will do a salt test and publish the results on our youtube channel We will do a time lapse video and the results will speak for themselves. We have purchased this model before so we know this issue. We also know the sound is the same so I don't know why you keep alluding to the fact that it's quieter when it's not.
 

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It comes from the same factory and uses the same components. Seeing as you seem so confident it will not rust please let us know how we can purchase or get hold of a side panel from you and we will do a salt test and publish the results on our youtube channel We will do a time lapse video and the results will speak for themselves. We have purchased this model before so we know this issue. We also know the sound is the same so I don't know why you keep alluding to the fact that it's quieter when it's not.
Stop fooling yourselves and trying to fool your audience here. It does not come from the same factory. It is not a Xing Xing product. Have you got that now? I think customers have understood already as to what a different product the Super Deluxe is. They are not so stupid to think a stainless GD is the same as an SD.

It is not made in Southern China. It is not made with 201 Steel. Its interior is 304 and its exterior is 430.

You have not purchased this model before as it was not available for you to purchase. It is sold exclusively by Keg King.
Unlike the Xing Xing product which comes on a skid with cardboard box over it this comes in a wooden crate. It also comes with the wheels installed and ready to go unlike the GD units which are a pain to fit wheels to. It does not come with scratches. It will work to much higher temperatures and it really looks the goods because it is.

As far as your youtube channel is concerned just go look at some of your old posts where you put up stuff about items that did not come from us but you attributed them to us to fool people into thinking we sold bad things. You have form.

If you want to try one then just buy one and you will not be disappointed by its performance. Thank you for the opportunity to once again point out the difference so those interested to buy are better equipped to make their decisions.
 

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It comes from the same factory and uses the same components. Seeing as you seem so confident it will not rust please let us know how we can purchase or get hold of a side panel from you and we will do a salt test and publish the results on our youtube channel We will do a time lapse video and the results will speak for themselves. We have purchased this model before so we know this issue. We also know the sound is the same so I don't know why you keep alluding to the fact that it's quieter when it's not.
I think you had better pull your head in Kee, after making false accusations I can see a libel case coming up. Had a look at my mates Super Deluxe today, two entirely different fridges.
Can't tell about the noise difference but definitely a huge difference in the build and quality in the Super Deluxe favour.
Take CEO Keg King up on his offer, buy one and see for yourself.
 

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I think you had better pull your head in Kee, after making false accusations I can see a libel case coming up. Had a look at my mates Super Deluxe today, two entirely different fridges.
Can't tell about the noise difference but definitely a huge difference in the build and quality in the Super Deluxe favour.
Take CEO Keg King up on his offer, buy one and see for yourself.
Thanks for the report back Reg, hopefully an honest assessment by someone not employed by either side (I didn't say unbiased) gives prospective purchasers an idea of what to expect, and sadly (for me at least) shows who was telling porkies and full of shiv. I had expected better from KL.
Unfortunately none of bitchin and gripin helps Ballin, he needs something less than 1250mm wide, anyone with any ideas?
 

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Thanks for the report back Reg, hopefully an honest assessment by someone not employed by either side (I didn't say unbiased) gives prospective purchasers an idea of what to expect, and sadly (for me at least) shows who was telling porkies and full of shiv. I had expected better from KL.
Unfortunately none of bitchin and gripin helps Ballin, he needs something less than 1250mm wide, anyone with any ideas?
You would not be the first one Grmblz who had their expectations dashed. If Ballin would like to message me I will look to see if I can help him with something.
 

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Better construction makes them a bit quieter. I might grab the noise meter and do some comparisons when I get a moment. FYI they are all stainless steel inside and outside unlike the GDs.
Not wanting to restart any debates.....

Did you get a chance to do these tests. I am very keen to hear back before I buy.

Nick
 

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