Goodbye Bronwyn

[JDW81]

time for the horse to have a new jockey

I think the horse has been flogged to death.

 

[Dave70]

Exactly. Ex lawyer, investment banker, jounalist.
Worth over 120 mill, not exactly a man of the people.
I reserve judgement though - he might be really, really, really, really good.

Dont forget venture capitalist.
**** a man of the people. Thats blokes a ********.
I'll take a hardworking champion of the free market and academic who knows how to make a quid any day.
Long may he reign.

And he will.
If for no other reason he bares little resemblance to a character from a film adaptation of a fantasy or or Phillip K **** novel.

 

[Zorco]

He didn't start with that wealth....he built it. A capability useful in his roll.

 

[Spohaw]

Thought his dad did that ?? And then he married into money ??

Should look it up I suppose

 

[manticle]

A capability useful in his roll.

I prefer ham in mine.
Or Spanish jamon if I'm feeling a little fancy.

 

[Spohaw]

Spanish jamon sounds a bit too fancy , your not part of the goats cheese set are you manticle ?

 

[SBOB]

I think the horse has been flogged to death.

Oh, the horse is still headed to the glue factory.. Just a new jockey

 

[seamad]

pretty hard to beat a jamon and gosts cheese on sourdough, with a nice saison, unless you're part of the 4n20 (genital) meat pie and VB set

 

[Spohaw]

Meat pie and IPA set here

Genital pies mmm mmm , would go down well with a stag semen stout

 

[seamad]

“There’s only one way to serve semen stout and that’s handpulling it,”

I had to google the stag semen beer, maybe that's the allblacks secret

 

[malt and barley blues]

From Fair Work Australia

Minimum wage for a Metro driver is about $34K pa. Long way from $104K pa

AP811428 - Locomotive Drivers (Victoria) Award 2001
14. RATES OF PAY - ADULTS
14.1 Wage rates
[new 14 inserted by PR930470 ppc 14Apr03]
14.1.1 Employees will be paid the following minimum rates of pay:

Classification

Minimum Award Rate per week​

$​

L1 Locomotive Driver (Trainee New Start)

$371.80​

L2 Locomotive Driver (Trainee qualified stage 2)

$410.00​

L3 Locomotive Driver (Trainee 12 Months)

$470.50​

L5 Locomotive Driver (V/Line)*

$568.30​

L5 Locomotive Driver Driver Only Shunting (V/Line)

$615.30​

L5 Locomotive Driver Driver Only Operation (V/Line)

$662.30​

L5 Locomotive Driver Single Person Operation (Metropolitan)

$662.30​

14.1.2 The L5 Locomotive Driver (V/Line) is the key classification for this award. The relativity to the Railways Metal Trades Grades Award [AW817167] C10 classification is 125.2%.

Thats the 2001 MINIMUM rates with amendments

 

[malt and barley blues]

ding dong the kernt is gone and taken his poodle with him, not to mention the fat sweaty cigar puffing kernt as well.

yee hah

I note that WE&L has gone to ground.

(hope the bro is ok, I should add)

WEAL went to Japan with his wife and kids yesterday, I am looking after his Staffy, probably doesn't even know about the spill yet.

 

[malt and barley blues]

I offer this link as a counter to the hs claim of 140k for <4 hour days.

I have read only and have not checked out the veracity so it is offered with a grain of salt to those interested enough to read further. It does offer some checkable sources above and beyond 'leaked internal documents which we have seen'.

https://mtmmemes.wordpress.com/2015/09/04/its-not-just-a-pay-dispute/

Well what a let down, not checking your sources,of course its union affiliated, and anything that starts off, Without prejudice is guaranteed to be ********.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Thats the 2001 MINIMUM rates with amendments

Has anyone actually asked an actual train driver ?

 

[manticle]

Well what a let down, not checking your sources,of course its union affiliated

I offered a link with checkable sources AND a caveat rather than a simple link as if it were god's own truth. I'm more than happy for anything within to be refuted with facts since I didnt write it. The quoted Herald Sun article (which I did actually read) used ''leaked documents which we have seen' (ie - not checkable) as its reference (if I remember correctly - its sole reference).

Even if Stu's sources are 2001 minimum wage, even if my article is union driven, even if the earth is really banana shaped, do you really actually believe 140k is an average wage for 3 and a half hours daily work driving trains. Does that make sense to you?

and anything that starts off, Without prejudice is guaranteed to be ********.

I'm not quite sure what you mean. What starts off without prejudice?

 

[warra48]

From Fair Work Australia

Minimum wage for a Metro driver is about $34K pa. Long way from $104K pa

AP811428 - Locomotive Drivers (Victoria) Award 2001
14. RATES OF PAY - ADULTS

[new 14 inserted by PR930470 ppc 14Apr03]

14.1 Wage rates
14.1.1 Employees will be paid the following minimum rates of pay:

Classification

Minimum Award Rate per week​

$​

L1 Locomotive Driver (Trainee New Start)

$371.80​

L2 Locomotive Driver (Trainee qualified stage 2)

$410.00​

L3 Locomotive Driver (Trainee 12 Months)

$470.50​

L5 Locomotive Driver (V/Line)*

$568.30​

L5 Locomotive Driver Driver Only Shunting (V/Line)

$615.30​

L5 Locomotive Driver Driver Only Operation (V/Line)

$662.30​

L5 Locomotive Driver Single Person Operation (Metropolitan)

$662.30​

14.1.2 The L5 Locomotive Driver (V/Line) is the key classification for this award. The relativity to the Railways Metal Trades Grades Award [AW817167] C10 classification is 125.2%.

From Fair Work Australia

Minimum wage for a Metro driver is about $34K pa. Long way from $104K pa

AP811428 - Locomotive Drivers (Victoria) Award 2001
14. RATES OF PAY - ADULTS

[new 14 inserted by PR930470 ppc 14Apr03]

14.1 Wage rates
14.1.1 Employees will be paid the following minimum rates of pay:

Classification

Minimum Award Rate per week​

$​

L1 Locomotive Driver (Trainee New Start)

$371.80​

L2 Locomotive Driver (Trainee qualified stage 2)

$410.00​

L3 Locomotive Driver (Trainee 12 Months)

$470.50​

L5 Locomotive Driver (V/Line)*

$568.30​

L5 Locomotive Driver Driver Only Shunting (V/Line)

$615.30​

L5 Locomotive Driver Driver Only Operation (V/Line)

$662.30​

L5 Locomotive Driver Single Person Operation (Metropolitan)

$662.30​

14.1.2 The L5 Locomotive Driver (V/Line) is the key classification for this award. The relativity to the Railways Metal Trades Grades Award [AW817167] C10 classification is 125.2%.



Those figures were inserted into the award on 14 April 2003.
If you are going to argue from a position of authority, at least use the current indexed figures, not those from 12½ years ago.

 

[goomboogo]

Ahhhhahahahahahahagaha
Tony is going to miss out on the ex-PM pension by 4 days


http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/0708/praa
"Prime Minister After 2 years continuously or 3 years intermittently in office as Prime Minister (either before or after this Act) upon retiring from the Parliament and reaching 45 years of age 1200 per annum. Widow 750 per annum. In the cases of both the Prime Minister and the widow of a Prime Minister the pension to be in addition to that otherwise payable under the Parliamentary Retiring Allowances Act 1948 but without any additional contribution by the Prime Minister. [recommendation accepted]"

He'll still do ok. Even falling short of the ex-PM pension, he is eligible to receive more than $300 000 per year upon leaving parliament. He could choose to take $1.5 million as a lump sum and then receive the rest as a $150 000 a year pension. Although not guaranteed, it is likely he'll receive another $300 000 per year to maintain an office and cover travel costs.

If Tony Abbott decides to leave parliament he may choose to use the proceeds of the Australian public's largesse to finally pay off his mortgage.

 

[madpierre06]

Good to see the age of entitlement was done away with.

 

[seamad]

Heard you can now have face to face lunches with joe now for a fiver, bit cheaper than those 10 grand ones .

 

[goomboogo]

Heard you can now have face to face lunches with joe now for a fiver, bit cheaper than those 10 grand ones .

But you have shout lunch as well. The bill could still get to 10 grand.