Goodbye Bronwyn

[Ducatiboy stu]

If you need to sit a course and a test, that is education.

And its not just a few days sitting in a room with a note pad pencil

 

[Burt de Ernie]

I am not trying to upset you.

I am just saying that I view train driving similar to say truck driving. Yeah, you have to have all your licensing and what not, and you can be good at your job but its not something I consider highly skilled.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Isn't the main reason the drivers are striking due to the attempt to de-skill their profession? It's not a 3 day course but their employers would like it to be. Easier qualifications means a larger workforce resulting in more competition and lower wages. Jeez, there's that recurring theme again. This union propaganda is widespread, yeah?

Does an easier qualification make it safer ...puleeze

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I am just saying that I view train driving similar to say truck driving

Well dont

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I am not trying to upset you.

but its not something I consider highly skilled.

Thank the world you are not a train driver.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I am not trying to upset you.

I am just saying that I view train driving similar to say truck driving. Yeah, you have to have all your licensing and what not, and you can be good at your job but its not something I consider highly skilled.

Lots of truck drivers will no doubt agree with you on that point

 

[manticle]

I am not trying to upset you.

I am just saying that I view train driving similar to say truck driving. Yeah, you have to have all your licensing and what not, and you can be good at your job but its not something I consider highly skilled.

Is that because you've driven trucks and trains?

 

[Camo6]

This thread is making me stoopider. I'm out.

 

[manticle]

Does an easier qualification make it safer ...puleeze

Pretty sure camo is on the side of quality training and good conditions for skilled workers.

 

[wombil]

Can Bronwyn drive a train?

 

[Burt de Ernie]

I have never driven a truck or train and I couldn't if you asked me. That doesn't mean I couldn't learn it.

My brother is a truck driver and he has a multitude of licenses but even he would not consider his profession high skilled.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Can Bronwyn drive a train?

She is the best.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I have never driven a truck or train and I couldn't if you asked me.

Best be not commenting on it then

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I probably should not comment on the LNP for that matter either

 

[Burt de Ernie]

Best be not commenting on it then

This thread would be a page 1 if everybody abided by this comment.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Page 75

Wonder what the day shift have to add

 

[malt and barley blues]

Great riposte.
I don't form my opinions based on rags but please feel free to defend a source that is well known for bias, distortion of facts and cheap, populist rubbish. I'd probably suggest similar for socialist alliance paper if that helps.

Many years ago, when I was at art school, I used to collect bizarre, obviously ridiculous articles from papers like weekly world news. If you believe 'bat boy found alive in cave', you need medical help.
Funniest thing was that next to the bizarre' farmer shoots 10 foot moth' or 'chupacabra captured alive' articles was always one or two articles replicated in the HS or some of the more mainstream uk tabloids that idiots actually give credence to. Shakespeare may have smoked pot. Or not.

It's not about what I read. Look at the information provided, examine its sources and biases and ask if its reasonable, justified, believable or ultimately true. That patently is not and the simplest google search suggests as much.
140k. In whose world?

Thanks for the lecture and an insight to your Psyche, I can understand your skepticism from newspaper articles after your fascination with the bizarre articles you used to collect, it must have been a disappointment to discover they weren't true.

If you had taken the time to follow your own advice you would have found that one of the points of issue Metro has with the train drivers is that a train driver is only allowed to drive 200 kilometers per shift, if he has completed his 200 K then he gets his 8 hours pay and is entitled to leave, or as most do go onto overtime, even though they may have only done 3 or 4 hours.

 

[manticle]

Do you actually have an unbiased source for your claim (which was what my 'lecture' was about)?

It is patently untrue that average (read average - presumably mean or median) train drivers actually earn 140k per year.

Not sure about the 200km thing nor how fair that is within a normal shift but all sources I've read so far, including abc AND herald sun suggest metro are pushing to reduce the skill level required to drive trains in order to reduce base salary.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Metro are not reducing skill level, they just want to train the drivers on less runs, the metro system is going to be split into a division of 5, drivers will be allocated to those divisions, so the training is not on all the track, just which ever division the driver is in.

At present it takes 70 weeks to train a driver in the current system, but it will be 20 weeks within each division as it is in Europe.

That 200 km limit on a driver each shift has been in operation since the days of steam.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Reading some of last nights posts it seems a couple of posters need some anger management, how can anyone get angry about posts which are made in a thread which means a poofteenth of **** all to other readers. Letting anger get the better of you is a weakness, which doesn't serve any purpose.