Fuggle

[Stuster]

This week it's a British hop, Fuggle. What do you think of them? How do you use them - bittering/flavour/aroma? Good beer styles to use this hop? What other hops do they combine well/badly with? Anything the new brewer should know about these hops? Tell us all you know about them.

Hop info from here.

English Fuggle
A chance seedling raised in England at about the turn of the century.

Characteristics
Aroma: Mild, pleasant, hoppy
Storageability: 70 - 80% of alpha acids remaining after six (6) months @ 20� C.

Acid Composition
Alpha Acid: 3.0 - 5.6% w/w
Beta Acids: 2.0 - 3.0% w/w
Co-Humulone: 23 - 30% of alpha acids

Oil Composition
Total Oil: 0.7 - 1.4 mls/100 grams
Myrcene: 24 - 28% of whole oil
Humulene: 35 - 40% of whole oil
Caryophyllene: 11 - 13% of whole oil
Farnesene: 5 - 7% of whole oil

General Trade Perception
A hop long associated with typical English Ale brewing. Imparts good hoppy late-hop flavor
It carries a high carryophyllene oilas well as farnesene oil content. This combination brings a herbal and woody type of aroma.

Other Information
Once the predominant hop in England but now reserved for aroma use in conjunction with high alpha types.

Information source: Joh. Barth & Sohn

 

[colinw]

I voted "never go in my beer again". Every time I use it, I get a nasty 'cheap perfume' aroma that I just can't stomach, and which takes forever to mellow out. The other hops variety which does this is Progress. Horrid!

I'm sticking to EKG, Northdown, Challenger.

 

[warrenlw63]

Only ever used Fuggles in pellet form. Had pretty mixed results all the same.

I always use Willamette in it's place. Now there's a nice substitute.

(Ditto your thoughts on Progress Colin).

Warren -

 

[redgums500]

LOve THis Hop!!!!

C'mon fellas, this is an original from the mother country, not some trendy ,poofy, bloody Yank bred thing.
Get it into your stouts and brown ales.
(and now I'll just go and put on my fire suit.......)

Redgums :beerbang:

 

[Fingerlickin_B]

My favourite hop :super:

You can use it for bittering, aroma, flavour, everything...it rocks :chug:

Oh, and it's not very good as pellets, but plugs are great

PZ.

 

[Stuster]

not some trendy ,poofy, bloody Yank bred thing.

But what do you really think of American hops, redgums? :lol:

I agree with you it's good with browns and stouts. (I do like the poofy Yankee things in brown ales as well though. h34r: )

 

[AndrewQLD]

Great hop for Stouts, Porters and Brown ales, also a good bittering hop for Milds with EKG for late additions. Has a great earthy taste that compliments darker ales very well.
Love It.
Oh and I agree, the pellets aren't a patch on the plugs as far as quality is concerned.

Cheers
Andrew

 

[Blackfish]

I just Dry Hopped my first IPA with this.

I was a bit sus of the smell when putting it in, Just wasnt as 'fresh' as some others I have smelt

From the sounds of this thread may have been a bad choice
despite a recommendation from my LHBS :angry:

 

[THE DRUNK ARAB]

I have used Fuggles plenty of times in my English style ales and I like it although I now prefer Target/Challenger combo.

I do use Fuggles solely in my Scottish type beers (80/-, Wee Heavy) and like to use it in Belgians as well, adds some earthy type flavours.

Agreed that plugs give better results than pellets.

C&B
TDA

 

[Duff]

I like them, but am keen to try more as all I've used are pellets. The plugs sound the go.

Love the James Squire IPA, supposed to be the finishing hops for this beer.

 

[colinw]

I'm prepared to try again... with plugs. Might try brewing an IPA and finishing with a couple of fuggle plugs. If I get that aroma again, I'll swear off 'em for life!

All my previous experiences with it were pellets.

 

[hooky]

I'm nearly ready to brew a pale ale and have the ingredients for a dark ale, i was going to use Fuggle's in the pale and Willamette in the dark but after reading this i think i might swap them around ??? They are both pellets.

 

[RobboMC]

Great in IPA but only when steeped for aroma. I've boiled the Fuggles in my latest effort and it lacks the smooth finish of my earlier work. An English Pale Ale came out supurbly with steeped Fuggles and everone who tastes it raves about it, so I heartily suggest not using Fuggles for bittering, only flavour and/or aroma.

 

[Weizguy]

The Fuggles hop can be substituted, almost universally, for Styrian Goldings, according to Garetz, IIRC.

The Styrian G. is a Slovenian-grown Fuggle. So, I have used Fuggles in a Belgian blonde.

I have made a nice brown ale with Fuggles late or dry-hopped (not sure which one, now).

This hop makes beer that will taste nice with a ploughman's lunch.

Not my favourite hop, but it certainly has a place in my inventory.

Seth

 

[Mr Bond]

Fuggle is great, Willamette is better(more marmaladey).

I find that earthy /orangey flava suits my palate, unlike the girly goldings.
I have thought about trying Styrian G ,but if its only a fuggle any way whats the point?

 

[jimmy01]

I like Fuggles as a bittering hop in Pale Ales & Porters

I use pellets and cant say that I have noticed an off smell.

 

[lou]

My latest brown ale was styrian goldings all the way

it even had an ounce chucked in the no chill cube -

the flavour is overpowering - can hardly taste the malt at all althought the orangey marmaladey taste is very very prominent

the hop aroma i find a bit off myself but I am sure this hop can be used to good effect in the right proportions and the right time of the boil - there is a nice earthyness in the hop but i don't know where to use it to get this nice flavour without so much of the orangy/plasticy taste i don't like

oh yeah - used pellets for this one - i think i used plugs before which were better
lou

 

[jayse]

Fuggles is pretty much one of my main hops here :super:
Great for porters, milds, stouts and great for bitters up the darker end as well. :chug:

One hop i keep going back for more and more.

Boozed, broozed and broken boned.
Jayse

 

[Pumpy]

Me and Jayse agree for once I like Fuggles as a bittering hop

this one was great I did not use the Styrian Goldings for dry hopping and used the Nottingham yeast

Pumpy

tyle: English Pale Ale/Strong Bitter
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 23.00 L
Boil Size: 27.70 L
Estimated OG: 1.059 SG
Estimated Color: 22.4 EBC
Estimated IBU: 27.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
5000.00 gm JWM Traditional Ale Malt (5.9 EBC) Grain 89.6 %
200.00 gm JWM Crystal 140 (145.8 EBC) Grain 3.6 %
100.00 gm JWM Wheat Malt (3.9 EBC) Grain 1.8 %
30.00 gm JWM Roast Barley (1400.7 EBC) Grain 0.5 %
35.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) Hops 15.9 IBU
35.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (20 min) Hops 10.7 IBU
25.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (1 min) Hops 0.5 IBU
0.30 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
250.00 gm Brown Sugar, Light (15.8 EBC) Sugar 4.5 %
1 Pkgs Nottingham yeast

 

[Jazzafish]

I like fuggles with EK Goldings. When mixed in the right proportions it is great. I wouldn't use it in the same amounts as amarillo or cascade is often used in an APA... But in an English Ale they have their place.

This one turned out pretty good... Maybe a bit more on the bitterness next time.

SOCKEYE Premium Bitter

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 20.00 Wort Size (L): 20.00
Total Grain (kg): 4.20
Anticipated OG: 1.048 Plato: 11.84
Anticipated EBC: 13.5
Anticipated IBU: 25.8
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Formulas Used
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Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
% Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.

Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Rager

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
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95.2 4.00 kg. Bairds Ale Great Britain 1.038 5
4.8 0.20 kg. JW Crystal Australia 1.002 110

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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12.00 g. Fuggle Pellet 5.70 11.2 60 min.
12.00 g. Goldings - E.K. Pellet 5.20 10.3 60 min.
12.00 g. Fuggle Pellet 5.70 2.2 10 min.
12.00 g. Goldings - E.K. Pellet 5.20 2.1 10 min.


Extras

Amount Name Type Time
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0.50 Unit(s)Whirfloc Tablet Fining 20 Min.(boil)


Yeast
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White Labs WLP005 British Ale