Gday, thanks for the replies,
Ya the low 4's is what I have been hearing and like you I would prefer something with a bit more grunt. I have a ESB 3kg American Pale Ale that I will put down next week and reckon i will keep it to 21 litres and forgoe the extra couple longnecks out of the bunch for a bit stronger beer and taste. I am keen to try the Brewers Selection FWKs (FWK = Fresh Wort Kit ya?) you mentioned though. Are these ESB things also? and are they fairly easy to and quick to put down?
BIAB sounds awesome, I just read Nic's guide last night and am pumped, but i reckon it will be a while till i have the time to pull one off though so FWKs or these 3kg ESB jobbies may be the go for the moment depending on how they turn out.
Cheers