Counter Pressure Bottle Filler

[bradsbrew]

Will be picking up my new bottle filler tommorrow arv. Its the stainless one from one of the sponsors. For those that have these what are the tips and tricks to get these performing the best.

Cheers Brad

 

[TidalPete]

Will be picking up my new bottle filler tommorrow arv. Its the stainless one from one of the sponsors. For those that have these what are the tips and tricks to get these performing the best.

Cheers Brad

Bring it up to my place to compare & you'll find out Brad. :icon_cheers: Bring beer.

TP
Edit --- Spelling fixed.

 

[bradsbrew]

Bring it up to my place to compare & you'll find out Brad. :icon_cheers: Being beer.

TP

Might just take you up on that Pete.

Brad

 

[Jye]

Check out http://morebeer.com/learn_vids/vids_cpfiller

And use it at a higher pressure than the beers carbonation pressure, this will help to minimise foaming.

 

[clean brewer]

Only used mine once so far, need more practise I think, no Oxygen in the bottles with one of these....

:icon_cheers: CB

 

[winkle]

Might just take you up on that Pete.

Brad

Good, once you figure it out you can show me.
I intend getting one of these after I buy a filter.

 

[TidalPete]

And use it at a higher pressure than the beers carbonation pressure, this will help to minimise foaming.

Tried that Jye (Long time no see mate :icon_cheers: ) & decorated the walls & ceiling with a nice splatter patten.

Serving pressure WAS 80Kps (3 metre line + Broncos) so upped to 90 as per your advice & did the decorating thing.

Finally dropped serving pressure to 60 & disregarded your advice to up the SP. All seems to work out ok although a little foaming is evident & lose a small amount of beer in the process but bottled beer is still carbonated at 3 weeks or so (Last bottle of last fill).
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Still hoping to fine tune further so any advice is good.

TP

 

[fraser_john]

If bottling into 750ml bottles, the filler stem is too short to reach the bottom and can foam because of the splashing. I added a couple of cm of silicon tube to the end so it reaches the bottom properly and I get less foam.

The earlier posting about doing it at a higher pressure may help solve this, I had not thought of that idea and will try it next time.

 

[Thirsty Boy]

I bottle at higher pressure than carbonation pressure - stops the C02 breaking out when it hits the warm bottle and heats up a degree or 3. My normal beers are carbonated at about 10-12psi .. bottling happens at about 20. Higher pressure also purges a bit more oxygen, depending on how you do your purge step.

When you get it wrong though ... the mess does spread over a distinctly greater area

 

[Henno]

I bottle at higher pressure than carbonation pressure - stops the C02 breaking out when it hits the warm bottle and heats up a degree or 3. My normal beers are carbonated at about 10-12psi .. bottling happens at about 20. Higher pressure also purges a bit more oxygen, depending on how you do your purge step.

I am thinking of getting one of these things myself. Would it help if you pre chilled your bottles then?

 

[Ross]

I am thinking of getting one of these things myself. Would it help if you pre chilled your bottles then?

Yes, it most definately does....

cheers Ross

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

I am thinking of getting one of these things myself. Would it help if you pre chilled your bottles then?

I sell these and using the fillers for years and never chilled my bottles and never had foaming.It just takes a bit of practice to get the whole thing running in equilibrium.That's the facts. Expect a shower of beer on the first run when you open the wrong valve.
GB

 

[Bribie G]

Just to get my head around this, if you use a CPBF - presumably out of a keg - then do you end up with bottled beer that is as well carbonated as a commerecial beer from the bottlo, say a tallie of VB or a bottle of Heineken? Tidal Pete gave me a bottle of his Aussie Lager and when I opened it, it went pffttt same as a commercial and had similar head and mouth-fizz so I assume, Pete, you used your CPBF with that?

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

Just to get my head around this, if you use a CPBF - presumably out of a keg - then do you end up with bottled beer that is as well carbonated as a commerecial beer from the bottlo, say a tallie of VB or a bottle of Heineken? Tidal Pete gave me a bottle of his Aussie Lager and when I opened it, it went pffttt same as a commercial and had similar head and mouth-fizz so I assume, Pete, you used your CPBF with that?

As long as the whole process is balanced then you will have very minimal C02 loss. Your bottled beer will be almost identical to your keg beer. You will get your pfffttt.
GB

 

[~MikE]

If bottling into 750ml bottles, the filler stem is too short to reach the bottom and can foam because of the splashing. I added a couple of cm of silicon tube to the end so it reaches the bottom properly and I get less foam.

The earlier posting about doing it at a higher pressure may help solve this, I had not thought of that idea and will try it next time.

i really don't think this filler is the best design. it looks very nice with the SS bling, (much better than the one i pieced together for <$15) but it doesn't allow much flexibility in the way of bottle height. mine has a large flexible rubber washer which can move up and down the rod and replaces the valve for CO2 release from the bottle. no matter what bottle i fill, i make it the perfect length and get virtually zero foam when filling room temp bottles.

 

[bradsbrew]

Check out http://morebeer.com/learn_vids/vids_cpfiller

And use it at a higher pressure than the beers carbonation pressure, this will help to minimise foaming.

Thanks Jye looks quite simple. Might video tape myself using it the first time, that way if I stuff up at least I can laugh at myself

Looks like I'm going to have to get some starsan,I knew there was something else I needed

Brad

 

[Bribie G]

Brad when I was round at your brewday I just sat there and wished Starsan on you so much :lol: Once you get a bottle you'll be totally hooked.

 

[TidalPete]

Just to get my head around this, if you use a CPBF - presumably out of a keg - then do you end up with bottled beer that is as well carbonated as a commerecial beer from the bottlo, say a tallie of VB or a bottle of Heineken? Tidal Pete gave me a bottle of his Aussie Lager and when I opened it, it went pffttt same as a commercial and had similar head and mouth-fizz so I assume, Pete, you used your CPBF with that?

Yes Bribie but I am still on bit of a learning curve. That was my second attempt.

TP

 

[Jye]

Thanks Jye looks quite simple. Might video tape myself using it the first time, that way if I stuff up at least I can laugh at myself

Looks like I'm going to have to get some starsan,I knew there was something else I needed

Brad

To make it even simpler I would not adjust the pressure release but instead just leave it on the bottle filling release setting. To quickly purge the bottle with co2 just open the co2 fully and not seal the bottle with the bung for a couple of seconds.

As TB said you can fill warm bottles easier with a higher pressure. Ive done a lot of barley wines and had comments from other brewers on how well they are keeping over the months/years

 

[Jye]

Tried that Jye (Long time no see mate :icon_cheers: ) & decorated the walls & ceiling with a nice splatter patten.

Serving pressure WAS 80Kps (3 metre line + Broncos) so upped to 90 as per your advice & did the decorating thing.

Hey Pete, are you using a pressurised filler or just pouring the beer into a bottle with the bronco?