Continuing Rant Thread - Get it Off Ya Chest here

[spog]

I couldnt be a big enough cnut to work in OH&S...[/quote]

Oi, I take ( possible) offence to that comment, I am considering becoming a Cnut ....err I mean an OH&S compliance officer. .

 

[Lemon]

I may be a cynical ******* but, most of the stupidest hazard or risk controls are introduced to prevent the occurrence of a set of circumstances, dreamt up by someone on night shift getting injured doing something they knew they shouldn't have been doing, made up to suit the injury and the rest of the broken shit they have left. The shoe is on the other foot when you all have to dance like the wiggles because you your stupid mate was trying the do a cartwheel on nightshift while stealing xyz, but said he did it when changing the water in the union mandated coffee machine and strained his wrist.

Ha!

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I am surprised that there isnt a JSA or SWMS for going to the fridge for a cold drink...

There are already ones out for microwave oven use.....

 

[Lemon]

Hey stu have you had the annual check for microwaves to test do leaking radiation? Had the union rep tell me that he had bought himself the device to test for stray microwaves , they all leak.
I just bought a new one every year, no one else had equipment to test, but the national safety council decided that all microwaves required an annual test .
Morons

 

[jlm]

I love a good OH&S rant........I've seen a lot of people hurt during my time in the trade.....I'd wager 95% of those would have still happened even if a JSA/SWIMs/INSERTTHELATESTACRONYMHERE was correctly filled out. My 2 favourites from this year are:

1. Doing some work for an un-named, rather large NZ dairying corporation recently. The paperwork involved to isolate a switchboard to connect supply to a demountable building took 45 minutes.....no shit.......Roughly the same time it took to do the physical work. Signing in to site and doing initial JSA's extra though......Sadly not on hourly rate , lesson learned when quoting these jobs.

2. NBN subcontractor safety alert!!!!!! NO MORE ******* STANLEY KNIVES!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously. Can't use a stanley knife on this particular subs jobs anymore. Fortunately I've made my hourly rate way too un-ecconomical to be viable to have me working on that stuff......what, with the pittance of of margin, more likely a loss of varying degrees most jobs. Mind you I was in the office during our latest induction of TA's employed for this stuff and I was amazed no-one suffered serious and permanent disability using those pointy ball point pens. Maybe they have a point.....

 

[Camo6]

But c'mon, how good are platform ladders?

 

[jlm]

So practical! I keep a collection of 8 in different lengths on top of my ute so I can work safely at various heights.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Hey stu have you had the annual check for microwaves to test do leaking radiation? Had the union rep tell me that he had bought himself the device to test for stray microwaves , they all leak.
I just bought a new one every year, no one else had equipment to test, but the national safety council decided that all microwaves required an annual test .
Morons

WE had that done at my old work 15yrs ago. Basically they all leak....There is 1Kw of microwave energy bouncing around in that small space. Do the maths.


We have customers at work who refuse to use wireless routers in their house.....But they have a mobile glued to there hands......Genuine Tin Foil folk.

 

[TheWiggman]

I love a good OH&S rant........I've seen a lot of people hurt during my time in the trade.....I'd wager 95% of those would have still happened even if a JSA/SWIMs/INSERTTHELATESTACRONYMHERE was correctly filled out.

This is my one biggest gripe with the concept. The whole WHS concept has moved to having paperwork in place to prove that the employer has done something to address worker safety, so that should something occur A. they can provide evidence that they worker hasn't followed instructions or B. modify the document to address a new hazard or risk. This becomes the solution. "Hurt himself how? Was the possibility of the slip flange sliding as the pipe was lifted from the other end listed as a specific step? No? Well it needs to be put in and we need to be better at doing our JSEAs". This was an actual response in a meeting by a manager I worked with. This JSEA was already 14 pages long for a job that lasted 18h.
My issue: you can't expect people to read a 14 page document in 10 mins and recall a step in it 6 hours later. Complicating it further doesn't fix the problem. They've lost the plot, honestly. Legislation is at the point now where you have employers scared of hurting people, and workers are protected against stupidity. Everything is the employers fault unless negligence is involved, and the net result is mountains of paperwork to try and make it hard to do anything. Which costs everyone money. That said, fewer people are hurting themselves seriously in workplaces than ever before so something's working. And that's a very good thing.
And stop crying about hard hats. Outside, wear it if you're told to. Same with safety glasses. Follow it because it's a rule, it's not a hard one to comply with.
(Btw mkenry hard had brims are available in the store. Some contractors doing the same thing as you once at CVO stated that problem, so I booked some out for them. Easy, everyone's happy, nobody 'reported'. I'd love to know who that was and I think I can guess...)

 

[jyo]

Just noticed that our local Turkish Kebab shop has the Halal emblem emblazoned on their shop front.

I don't know whether to not give a flying **** and keep enjoying their amazingly good food, or to not give a flying **** and keep enjoying their amazingly good food.

What should I do?

 

[manticle]

Conundrum jyo.
At least ask for chilli sauce next time.
And lemon juice.

 

[sponge]

I know plenty of sites I work on have a strict no Stanley knife policy, and the company I work for actually has use of Stanley knives as a dismissible offense.

A sparky was only gives the boot a couple of months back for using a Stanley knife to remove some sheath on site.

I can see the upside of that though, as I've seen some pretty nasty injuries from Stanley knives slipping during use..

 

[Blind Dog]

I've seen some pretty nasty injuries from Stanley knives slipping during use..

Hope you're not a rabbi

 

[manticle]

Yes there can be nasty injuries but almost always from user error. Why is responsibility totally removed from the user?
There was a suggestion at my workplace that stanleys might go because someone cut themselves but the suggested replacements would in no way accomplish the necessary outcome. Might as well replace the forklift with a wheelbarrow.

 

[sponge]

Hope you're not a rabbi

Shalom aleikhem!

Yes there can be nasty injuries but almost always from user error. Why is responsibility totally removed from the user?
There was a suggestion at my workplace that stanleys might go because someone cut themselves but the suggested replacements would in no way accomplish the necessary outcome. Might as well replace the forklift with a wheelbarrow.

I will admit, those injuries are almost ways from incorrect use. Removing the risk just another way the employer can cover their ass..

 

[mje1980]

I do think that I'm much less likely to get seriously injured at work these days. That's a good thing for sure. The smaller things, though, can seem just crazy. Like, common sense.

There are a few jobs we do at work that take longer to isolate the energy sources than to do the work. It is silly sometimes, but at the end of the day, I don't make the rules I just follow them. If the company is happy to lose time to safety precautions so be it.

What's just as annoying is people spending 45 mins arguing about doing a job when the job takes 15 minutes, or the classic, using a very flimsy safety reason not to do a job. Just do it fa fucks sake

 

[Coalminer]

I do think that I'm much less likely to get seriously injured at work these days. That's a good thing for sure. The smaller things, though, can seem just crazy. Like, common sense.

There are a few jobs we do at work that take longer to isolate the energy sources than to do the work. It is silly sometimes, but at the end of the day, I don't make the rules I just follow them.

If the company is happy to lose time to safety precautions so be it.

What's just as annoying is people spending 45 mins arguing about doing a job when the job takes 15 minutes, or the classic, using a very flimsy safety reason not to do a job. Just do it fa fucks sake

Compared to the paperwork and grief of a death onsite then I know what most companies prefer

 

[Bridges]

Hey don't forget it's 2015, common sense is pretty much a super power these days. About as common as leaping tall buildings in a single bound and surviving a bite from a radioactive spider whilst gaining the ability to climb up walls and shoot webs from your hands.

 

[Kumamoto_Ken]

More hours below zero than above since Monday morning.
Had to move my WLP004 starter out into the garage and the ferm fridge as I'm sure it would have done SFA in the house today.
On the plus side there's plenty of room in the bike cage at work.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-04/extreme-frosty-mornings-continue-in-canberra/6520778

 

[mje1980]

Compared to the paperwork and grief of a death onsite then I know what most companies prefer

Yeah obviously. I'm happy to take longer to make a job safe. Some people go nuts over it, and whinge about how much time it'll take etc.

I'm there for 12 hours and paid for 12 so I'm fine with it.