Caramunich I & Czech Pilsners

[DJR]

I'm pretty sure Budvar no longer does decoctions though.

Hmmm... I dunno how I got this idea, but it's completely wrong. Never mind.

Well i would hope not, because the Budvar style Pils i put on last weekend was with a double decoction.

'Twas 4kg of Wey Boh Pils, 500g of JW Pils, 200g of Wey Carapils and 300g of JW Light munich. Did a 53-66-72C double decoction with a 20-30' boil at each pull. Used 25g NZ B Saaz for FWH and bittering and then 3 Czech saaz plugs, 1 at 15' and 2 at flameout. WLP802 Budejovice of course. Tastes bloody good although it probably needs more Saaz plugs next time to get that real over-the-top Saaz aroma/flavour that Budvar has. But even though it has only just been put into lagering, the maltiness/sweetness that Budvar has is very similar to what i got. After lagering and bottling i'll organise a blind taste test and work out what needs to change. I'm pretty keen on getting a beer that's very similar to Budvar, nicer than PU in my opinion, hence why it's my avatar :chug: .

Anyway back on topic, haven't tried Caramunich but i'd say that using Melanoidin would be a better choice to get that caramel sweetness/maltiness, or Wey Carahell. I've seen some talk about Carahell being ideal for about 5% of a Bo Pils grainbill.

 

[Stoodoo]

Been awhile since I've had a budejovicky Budvar, however I've always tasted more saaz hops in my Pilsner Urquell then I have in the Budvar. The Budvar imho seems more mild in hops and slightly more malty(SMOOTH malty that is) in flavour. Though everyone's tastebuds are different. I kegged a triple decocted PU clone 1.5 weeks ago and can hardly wait the three month conditioning phase I'm going to give it, however I am determined to make a great tasting Pilsner.

Cheers

 

[DJR]

Been awhile since I've had a budejovicky Budvar, however I've always tasted more saaz hops in my Pilsner Urquell then I have in the Budvar. The Budvar imho seems more mild in hops and slightly more malty(SMOOTH malty that is) in flavour. Though everyone's tastebuds are different. I kegged a triple decocted PU clone 1.5 weeks ago and can hardly wait the three month conditioning phase I'm going to give it, however I am determined to make a great tasting Pilsner.

Cheers

Don't get me wrong, i was never saying that Budvar had more hops than PU, just that i preferred it. They still both have bucketloads of hops in them, just in the Budvar it's easier to taste the aroma/flavour hops without the bitterness of PU.

Anyway, sounds like a nice beer you have there. What was the temps/decoction schedule?

If anyone can work out what the secret is to brewing good Czech Pilsners at home, i think with our collective mindset we can really do it!

 

[bumpkinbrews]

I am still yet to get hold of the complete recipe, however I have tried a homebrewed pilsener side by side with Pilsner Urquell, and to bt totally honest, the ONLY difference between them that I could distinguish, was that the homebrew held its head longer. Flavourwise I couldn't tell them apart. My brothers workmate who brewed this AG wonderbrew thinks he may have "lost" his promash recipe somewhere, somehow I have been told that one of the grains used in this recipe is Weyermann munich type 1 malt. I am still hoping, praying....that I can get a copy of this recipe. I'll update you if I get hold of it.

Cheers

Hello Stoodoo,

We're you able to get a hold of this recipe? I'm working on a PU clone and am very excited to see someone has accomplished and would love to see how they did it.

 

[gap]

That post you are referring to is nearly 18 years old.