Building And Using Garden Sprayer Party Kegs

[Thirsty Boy]

I "think" you can just screw one down hard over the post of the sprayer, they are metal and basically will cut their own thread in the plastic - the kicker is that they cost a bit'o'money to buy, and you'd need to get one of the ones with the little clip thing that olds the poppet in place, or you might need to use a proper corny dip tube too??

not sure about them screwing on either, but I seem to recall seeing that someone had done it that way.

 

[davo4772]

"Aqua" 5 Litre currently on special at Bunnings (Preston, Vic)

Bought it for $9.50 or thereabouts.


Dave.

 

[davo4772]

Thank you for the guide Spills and Thirsty.

I have a leak around the John Guest fitting (I think) Will get a washer today which will hopefully fix it. Anyone else need a washer there?


The nylon chopping board I found (from Ikea) is not perfectly smooth, it is made with a rough texture presumably to give the board some grip. They would not even be a half millimeter proud.
It may be possible that it might not seal completely. Did anyone else use a similiar board?


Cheers

Dave

 

[Thirsty Boy]

Jg fitting (the bulkhead one I assume?) should come with a washer.. If not it will certainly need one.

See how it goes with a washer.. But you might be asking for trouble with a non smooth bit of chopping board.

Glad you found it useful

Cheers

TB

 

[SpillsMostOfIt]

A (usually) red fibre tap body washer and the lightest touch of keg lube (for the washer) should do the trick or a small nylon O-ring (if the hole you're sealing in is neat enough). Both items can be found at all crap hardware stores.

 

[prestonpaul]

Thank you for the guide Spills and Thirsty.

I have a leak around the John Guest fitting (I think) Will get a washer today which will hopefully fix it. Anyone else need a washer there?


The nylon chopping board I found (from Ikea) is not perfectly smooth, it is made with a rough texture presumably to give the board some grip. They would not even be a half millimeter proud.
It may be possible that it might not seal completely. Did anyone else use a similiar board?


Cheers

Dave

I made a couple of party kegs recently as well. My JG bulkhead fittings didn't come with washers either so I cut one out of a silicone baking sheet big enough to seal the whole bulkhead assembly which has worked well.


Paul.

 

[davo4772]

Cheers ,

I bought some washers from the big green shed, still leaking so I went to another $2 shop and found a smooth chopping board which has sealed it nicely.

So looks like textured chopping boards are out.

Thanks for replies.


Dave

 

[dethaspagan]

Just wondering where you can get the john guest valve from, as shown in the picture. It doesn't appear as if any of the sponsors have them. Can you just pick them up from Bunning's or do I need to find a specialist shop?

 

[davo4772]

Just wondering where you can get the john guest valve from, as shown in the picture. It doesn't appear as if any of the sponsors have them. Can you just pick them up from Bunning's or do I need to find a specialist shop?
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Not sure where you are but Grain and Grape have a heap of different types, not sure about that one.

The John guest style of connector are commonly used in plumbing instead of using copper fittings. My plumber used them in my house and they are available at plumbing supply places. "Sharkbite" is one brand.
Problem is the smallest fitting is about 20mm from memory hence probably way to big for what you want them for. They may come in smaller sizes, I doubt it.

Cheers

David

 

[SpillsMostOfIt]

Just wondering where you can get the john guest valve from, as shown in the picture. It doesn't appear as if any of the sponsors have them. Can you just pick them up from Bunning's or do I need to find a specialist shop?

Definitely Grain and Grape - all actual John Guest brand. Known to work.
Definitely Craftbrewer - some John Guest, some other brands. Known to work.

Or, try Purple Pig, who do not sponsor this website. You'll need to know exactly what you're doing...

 

[dkaos]

Definitely Grain and Grape - all actual John Guest brand. Known to work.
Definitely Craftbrewer - some John Guest, some other brands. Known to work.

Or, try Purple Pig, who do not sponsor this website. You'll need to know exactly what you're doing...

Just went to Bunnings at Thornleigh but they were out of stock! Apparently they go out of stock regularly. After recently missing out on an auction for a porta keg on eBay, I'm very excited to get working on a couple of these.

 

[poppa joe]

Just went to Bunnings at Thornleigh but they were out of stock! Apparently they go out of stock regularly. After recently missing out on an auction for a porta keg on eBay, I'm very excited to get working on a couple of these.

There is a place in Brookvale that has all J G fittings
You may be close by.Try your Yellow Pages.
I will find my PDF It is on another computer.
Cheers
PJ

 

[poppa joe]

There is a place in Brookvale that has all J G fittings
You may be close by.Try your Yellow Pages.
I will find my PDF It is on another computer.
Cheers
PJ

Can't find the PDF...I have a printout of their products...
BUT no name..google " john guest fittings brookvale nsw "
They will send a PDF to you....When you find them..
The owner is a member here as well ..
Cheers
PJ

 

[aaronpetersen]

So how long have people left beer in their sprayer kegs for? I'd like to make one (or more) to use in place of a "proper" keg system, so the beer could be in there for a few months potentially. Does anyone foresee any problems with that?

 

[prestonpaul]

So how long have people left beer in their sprayer kegs for? I'd like to make one (or more) to use in place of a "proper" keg system, so the beer could be in there for a few months potentially. Does anyone foresee any problems with that?

I have used them in a similar manner to what you are suggesting and have found the biggest problem to be getting a reliable connection for the gas through the tyre valve. Otherwise no real problems, didn't have any issues with taste but then I don't have the most educated palett either
I have 2 here I am not using (just bought my first "real" keg today) and would be willing to sell.
PM me if you are interested.
Paul.

 

[aaronpetersen]

I have found a good solution for connecting the gas line to the schraeder valve.

Its off a Silca bicycle pump and is called a Schraeder head, part no. 30.1.
Cecil Walker cycles in Melbourne has them. I think it cost about $8 from memory.
It screws directly onto the car tyre valve and fits perfectly into 5mm ID gas line. I connected mine to my garden sprayer last night and pressurised to 100 kPa and then closed the valve on the gas bottle. This morning it was still sitting on 100kPa.

 

[beerking]

Only problem i see is none of these sprayer bottles use a food grade plastic , plastic would impart a taste to your beer if kept for to long.

 

[woodwormm]

Only problem i see is none of these sprayer bottles use a food grade plastic , plastic would impart a taste to your beer if kept for to long.

5-8 litre PARTY keg.... should last about 3 hours (if i'm lucky)!

 

[felten]

My bunnings sprayer is HDPE, which is pretty good at being food grade AFAIK.

 

[NewtownClown]

Only problem i see is none of these sprayer bottles use a food grade plastic , plastic would impart a taste to your beer if kept for to long.

And you know this how?

I have two made up, both HDPE, which is food grade.
Just like your fermenter.
Just like Jerry cans for DRINKING water.
Just like the cubes that FWK come in. (I have only made two FWK's but a mate makes them all the time. Don't recall any plastic flavour AND he bottles in plastic (OMG))
I use one for kegging small or experimental batches and serve from my kegorator. No plastic flavor.
That can sit in the fridge for a couple of weeks. No plastic flavor.
I have used it to lager small batches and to crash-chill, as well. No plastic flavor.

This thread is 4 years old, don't you think someone would have complained about the "plastic" flavours in that time?