Building And Using Garden Sprayer Party Kegs

[cam2584]

GDay
got apressure sprayer Just wnadering if anyone else had a stong smell in theres will this jsut clean out with napisan
cheers
cameron

 

[SpillsMostOfIt]

GDay
got apressure sprayer Just wnadering if anyone else had a stong smell in theres will this jsut clean out with napisan
cheers
cameron

Seriously, only you will be able to tell for sure. Make up a hot, strong napisan solution and leave it for a day or so, then give it a good rinse. I predict success, but...

 

[mxd]

for the small, start working on the project and just leave it sitting outside in the "sun" with same water on it and it should came up nicely.

 

[cam2584]

thanks for the reply got it soaking now

those soda stram adptors where would be the best place to get on them cheap

 

[mxd]

there about $23 from keg king or ebay I think.

 

[cam2584]

too easy bloke thanks for that im jsut trying to to decide weather to go soda stream or gas botte

 

[oldmacdonald]

The beauty of the spraker keg is that it's so simple and compact. I reckon carting a soda stream cylinder around with it defeats the purpose a little. I'd go with a soda bulb charger. You can get soda bulb regs but they're frickin expensive.

 

[SpillsMostOfIt]

The beauty of the spraker keg is that it's so simple and compact. I reckon carting a soda stream cylinder around with it defeats the purpose a little. I'd go with a soda bulb charger. You can get soda bulb regs but they're frickin expensive.

If you go SodaStream, all you need to move to *cough* 'proper' kegging *cough* is a *cough* 'proper' keg *cough*. So, there is no wasted equipment. I don't consider the SodaStream stuff too much extra stuff to carry about if I've got 8-10kg beer, etc...

 

[MarkBastard]

What I don't get is why you need co2 at all?

It's small enough to drink in one sitting :chug: and you can just use the in built pump thing to pressurise it so the beer comes out your tap!

Oxygenation shouldn't be a problem in one sitting I don't think.

 

[Bribie G]

What I don't get is why you need co2 at all?

It's small enough to drink in one sitting :chug: and you can just use the in built pump thing to pressurise it so the beer comes out your tap!

Oxygenation shouldn't be a problem in one sitting I don't think.

I may have mentioned this before but can't be bothered wading through n posts, but back in the seventies I had a keg that was briefly popular round the LHBS circuit. It held three gallons (in those days), aluminium with a barrel shape and a built in plunger pump on the top, and a nice swan neck pipe rising up from the top. Looked like this if you can imagine a little hand pump on one side of the top and a swan neck tap rising out of the middle.

Long gone, but the point is that I could keep it in my beer fridge or take it round to a mates and just use air pressure and never had problems with off flavours, even after a week. Should be ok for a party or even an whole weekend as long as you keep it cold and pressurised to keep the beer's dissolved CO2 in solution.

 

[SpillsMostOfIt]

What I don't get is why you need co2 at all?

Because you want to.

Occasionally (admittedly only very, but still), I will make a small batch of something and keg it into one of these things to drink over a period of weeks or whatever. Sits on the compressor hump in the kegerator (or on its side in the kitchen fridge). So, treating it like a proper keg works for me.

I had a couple of party kegs before I got my 'real' kegs, so I was able to learn stuff before committing a whole batch of my swill to a keg.

 

[MarkBastard]

Because you want to.

Occasionally (admittedly only very, but still), I will make a small batch of something and keg it into one of these things to drink over a period of weeks or whatever. Sits on the compressor hump in the kegerator (or on its side in the kitchen fridge). So, treating it like a proper keg works for me.

I had a couple of party kegs before I got my 'real' kegs, so I was able to learn stuff before committing a whole batch of my swill to a keg.

Fair enough mate, but I reckon there'd be a hell of a lot of people going to the effort of co2 when they don't need to for 'party keg' reasons.

Small keg reasons I agree 100% they'd be very handy and I may do that at some point.

 

[shmick]

GDay
got apressure sprayer Just wnadering if anyone else had a stong smell in theres will this jsut clean out with napisan
cheers
cameron

Mine seemed fine UNTIL I cleaned it (Bleach or PBW I can't remember) where the black sealing washer around the top developed an incredibly bad butyl rubber smell.
It was so bad you could smell it on your hands hours afterwards and took 2 days soaking to get it out of the tank.
I cut a silicone washer out of bakeware which was a PITA but worked better than the original.

FWIW I got a small brass adaptor turned that threads directly into the chopping board top plate then fitted a standard ball lock gas post onto to it.
I already had a keg charger so this option looked better than mucking around with car valves etc.
Now after purging with CO2 I just fill it directly through the disconnect post with a keg transfer hose (liquid out to gas in hose) and it stays a closed system & fully carbed.
A 'picnic tap' went straight into the end of the sprayer's original black hose without problems but sometimes can be a bit short.

 

[zebba]

This is all covered in the "using your party keg" pdf on page 1

Fair enough mate, but I reckon there'd be a hell of a lot of people going to the effort of co2 when they don't need to for 'party keg' reasons.

Small keg reasons I agree 100% they'd be very handy and I may do that at some point.

 

[cam2584]

well this little project s at a stand still as local home brew store wanted to question what I was doing and try to sell me one of his kegs long convo running round in circles till I said to home look at the parts tell me if a price if ot I will get em elsewhere

 

[Phoney]

OK Ive built my sprayer keg, using a 6L Hills Garden Sprayer... so far so good except for one part!



Where can I find a tyre valve filler attachment that fit's OD line from? (circled in red) Ive looked at SupercheapAuto, Kmart, ebay and a bike shop, no luck! They all only sell pumps etc with a hose already fastened to the filler.

Cheers

 

[Thirsty Boy]

Sorry, cant help there then, I just got mine from super cheap auto... Think it only cost 4 or 5 bucks. Pretty sure I've seen them in kmart too.... But haven't looked for a while so they might not be there anymore.

Anyone?

 

[zabond]

as it looks like you've got an adaptor already just get a short length of nylon air hose that will fit the adaptor then get a JG type straight adaptor that will suit both hoses,if you go to an industrial air tool supplier eg: blackwoods/total tools or even a truck spares supplier you will get what you need

 

[raven19]

OK Ive built my sprayer keg, using a 6L Hills Garden Sprayer... so far so good except for one part!
Cheers

How about a simple in line ball valve and tube without the disconnect fitting similar to my 'basterdised' version a few posts back?

 

[under]

Ive got a charger with the quick disconnect. Anyway I can fit a corney disconnect the the sprayer???

 

[Thirsty Boy]

I "think" you can just screw one down hard over the post of the sprayer, they are metal and basically will cut their own thread in the plastic - the kicker is that they cost a bit'o'money to buy, and you'd need to get one of the ones with the little clip thing that olds the poppet in place, or you might need to use a proper corny dip tube too??

not sure about them screwing on either, but I seem to recall seeing that someone had done it that way.

 

[davo4772]

"Aqua" 5 Litre currently on special at Bunnings (Preston, Vic)

Bought it for $9.50 or thereabouts.


Dave.

 

[davo4772]

Thank you for the guide Spills and Thirsty.

I have a leak around the John Guest fitting (I think) Will get a washer today which will hopefully fix it. Anyone else need a washer there?


The nylon chopping board I found (from Ikea) is not perfectly smooth, it is made with a rough texture presumably to give the board some grip. They would not even be a half millimeter proud.
It may be possible that it might not seal completely. Did anyone else use a similiar board?


Cheers

Dave

 

[Thirsty Boy]

Jg fitting (the bulkhead one I assume?) should come with a washer.. If not it will certainly need one.

See how it goes with a washer.. But you might be asking for trouble with a non smooth bit of chopping board.

Glad you found it useful

Cheers

TB

 

[SpillsMostOfIt]

A (usually) red fibre tap body washer and the lightest touch of keg lube (for the washer) should do the trick or a small nylon O-ring (if the hole you're sealing in is neat enough). Both items can be found at all crap hardware stores.

 

[prestonpaul]

Thank you for the guide Spills and Thirsty.

I have a leak around the John Guest fitting (I think) Will get a washer today which will hopefully fix it. Anyone else need a washer there?


The nylon chopping board I found (from Ikea) is not perfectly smooth, it is made with a rough texture presumably to give the board some grip. They would not even be a half millimeter proud.
It may be possible that it might not seal completely. Did anyone else use a similiar board?


Cheers

Dave

I made a couple of party kegs recently as well. My JG bulkhead fittings didn't come with washers either so I cut one out of a silicone baking sheet big enough to seal the whole bulkhead assembly which has worked well.


Paul.

 

[davo4772]

Cheers ,

I bought some washers from the big green shed, still leaking so I went to another $2 shop and found a smooth chopping board which has sealed it nicely.

So looks like textured chopping boards are out.

Thanks for replies.


Dave

 

[dethaspagan]

Just wondering where you can get the john guest valve from, as shown in the picture. It doesn't appear as if any of the sponsors have them. Can you just pick them up from Bunning's or do I need to find a specialist shop?

 

[davo4772]

Just wondering where you can get the john guest valve from, as shown in the picture. It doesn't appear as if any of the sponsors have them. Can you just pick them up from Bunning's or do I need to find a specialist shop?
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Not sure where you are but Grain and Grape have a heap of different types, not sure about that one.

The John guest style of connector are commonly used in plumbing instead of using copper fittings. My plumber used them in my house and they are available at plumbing supply places. "Sharkbite" is one brand.
Problem is the smallest fitting is about 20mm from memory hence probably way to big for what you want them for. They may come in smaller sizes, I doubt it.

Cheers

David

 

[SpillsMostOfIt]

Just wondering where you can get the john guest valve from, as shown in the picture. It doesn't appear as if any of the sponsors have them. Can you just pick them up from Bunning's or do I need to find a specialist shop?

Definitely Grain and Grape - all actual John Guest brand. Known to work.
Definitely Craftbrewer - some John Guest, some other brands. Known to work.

Or, try Purple Pig, who do not sponsor this website. You'll need to know exactly what you're doing...