Bronco Faucets

[Amber Fluid]

I have just scored a Bronco Faucet without the line so is someone able to tell me what ID the black line is that usually come with these please?

I assume a normal beer line with the same ID should pour just the same as the black line.

 

[flavo]

My CB one (curly hose) says 3/16inch

 

[MaestroMatt]

My system uses only bronco taps and I have ID5mm line - the Flexmaster stuff that CB sell.....bit of a stretch getting it on there but nothing some hot water didn't fix.

EDIT - after re reading your post you talk about the black hose. I am pretty sure that stuff is ID6mm. You would be safe with either 6mm or 5mm IMO......just get some extra line for balancing purposes if you need to.

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

My CB one (curly hose) says 3/16inch

+1.

Fantastic tap, just to be OT.

Goomba

 

[Amber Fluid]

I have some spare 5mm at home so I might try that at 1.5m. I know there are no pouring issues with the standard black hose that comes with it and given that is only 1m @ 6mm ID I maybe able to get away with 5mm @ 1.5m.

I think 3/16 converted = approx 5mm so it should be right.

I am thinking of connecting it to a cheap portable setup.

Thanks everyone

 

[DU99]

I use clear beer line for mine..no issues and i use 5mm..this is not a bad idea either http://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/details.asp?PID=4252

 

[Amber Fluid]

I use clear beer line for mine..no issues and i use 5mm..this is not a bad idea either http://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/details.asp?PID=4252

Yeah that one is good. Howeer, I have a heap of 5mm ID lines and just the tap so I will make do with that for now.

How long is your line and I assume it still pours as you would expect?

 

[OneEye]

I've just set myself up with one of these bronco taps. It came with ~1m of 5mm ID line. Following all the info I've come across here, including the Balancing Your Draft article, I'm still having issues with excessive foaming. I slow carbed at serving pressure... ~70-80Kpa. Do the bronco taps typically need to be served at a much lower pressure? Are there issues with the beer going flat in that case? I'm thinking I should be getting a longer line but this length is what Ross sells the tap with so I assume its suppose to work in some setups.

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

I have the curly hosed version and found that I'm down, now about 40-60 KPA on the reg (it kind of self adjusted this time - have yet to figure out why), and for the last half a keg, it's actually perfect serving pressure (though at 60 Kpa, it's still getting higher). Followed the balancing spreadsheet and came up with 80kpa, but found it was foam after 2/3rd the keg had been drunk.

40kpa isn't flat either, even for a weissbier (which is one that I currently hold on tap).

 

[MarkBastard]

Why do people insist on talking about line length, diameter and serving pressure without mentioning temperate?

Gas pressure and liquid temperature are the two most important things when carbing a beer and balancing a system.

System balancing 101:

1 - First choose what temperature you'll be wanting the beer in your kegs to be. (e.g. 4 degrees)
2 - Then choose what carbonation level you want your beers to be (e.g. 2.2 volumes)
3 - Then work out what setting your regulator needs to be at to ensure that level of carbonation at that temperature (e.g. 65kpa)
4 - Only then should you worry about pouring / line length / line diametre / height from keg to tap etc.

With line length, if a line is too long the beer will pour slow, which is annoying if you're impatient but will make for easier pours. However co2 will come out of solution in the line as well resulting in the first pour in a while being a bit gassy.

If a line is too short it will just come out too fast and will be harder to pour a glass without too much head.

However if you're a good pourer, if your glass is cold and your tap is kept as cold as the beer it may be possible to pour faster while still not having too much head.

I find with these bronco taps as they typically sit in the fridge and are cold you can get away with a shorter length than normal. How short that is completely depends on your own system.

Can't believe people give advice on what serving pressure to use for example without talking about temperature or carbonation level.

 

[Maheel]

do these bronco taps (curly ones) need balancing (extra meters of beer line) ?

i am thinking of a keg system for xmas and was going to just start with these...

or in the end should i just get the Celli flow reg tap

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

Nope, no extra line needed - curly hose fits onto QD on the keg and the other end is obviously the tap.

M^B is right. I should have included the detail that I altered the temperature at 80 kpa (by 2 degrees) which increased the foaming issue, as well as the keg getting low (always a foaming issue then, temp regardless).

I suppose my point was that 40kpa isn't "too low", you won't get "flat beer", rather than being a golden number to aim at. But M^B is right - I should have been more explicit with that aspect of my reply.

Monday morning and all that....


Goomba

 

[mrTbeer]

My bronco tap has a 3/16" ID x 7/16" OD x 1.5m L clear line on it.

Works fine at fridge temp 4c and ice temps.

 

[Midnight Brew]

Hey, I've got one of these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/homebrew-corney...=item3a60a792b3 and Im gonna be serving at 4C and carb it to 2.3vols but have no idea what pressure to serve it at. Im gonna be carbing it up at 70kpa. Its 30cm long and the line is 5mm diameter. After reading this thread it looks like I need more line .

Has anyone used these before? What pressure would you serve it at?

 

[iralosavic]

I've got 5mm ID line on my bronco - had to heat the hose in boiling water to get it on.

 

[DU99]

Hope this helps or even this i run a bronco tap run it @ about 10psi or 70kpa

 

[Midnight Brew]

I've got 5mm ID line on my bronco - had to heat the hose in boiling water to get it on.

What is the length of your line?

Hope this helps or even this i run a bronco tap run it @ about 10psi or 70kpa

Does that mean I need 2-3m of line for 5mm? This sample faucet came as is with 30cm of line and fittings

 

[iralosavic]

1.5m at 75kpa. I haven't fine tuned it all yet, but it's going rather well so far.

 

[DU99]

could have got this

 

[iralosavic]

If you're trying to decide how to rig things up, I highly recommend my setup: FFL swivel nuts with hose tails secured to hose ends for attachment to MFL QDs. I also use a JG check valve and those plastic line splitters. All hoses that attach to JG fittings have brass barbs with perfect OD secured. Everything is plug and play and leak free. I was tossing up using barbed QDs, but I'm glad I went the way I did. Flicking between force carbing, PET bottle carbing and dispensing is easy as pie. Cheers