Beer, Blood Pressure And The Ticker

[glennheinzel]

On the topic of health-

Has anyone seen the "Eat right for your blood type diet"? Basically it says that you're blood type should influence the type of food that you can eat. I think that this is why some people can go on the Atkins diet and not suffer high cholesterol problems whilst others clog up.

Relating to alcohol. For Type A blood types, Red wine is beneficial, white wine is neutral whilst beer/spirits should be avoided. For Type O's, I think that beer and white wine are neutral (red is probably beneficial). I can't remember the other blood types.

The information above is accurate within the limited number of people who's bloodtypes I know, although blood pressure is still a concern for the type O big drinkers. Of course there is always going to be exceptions to the rule, but perhaps the type A's out there should take it a bit easier on the beer front.

Public service announcement over and out...

 

[Black Dog Brewery]

My old man passed just over 3 years back from a heart attack. It is common in my family for the males to go early (old man was 53) with heart probs so it scared the shit out of me. I went to see my GP for a once over and to mention some concerns I had re the chest department. Between the GP, 3 specialists and numerous tests, which showed a minor irregularity in my heartbeat, I was told the biggest potential contributor that may lead to my demise was the bungers. They all concurred that I could continue havin my 3ish stubs a night, with the occasional splurge, but the durries had to go. And so the nails are a thing of the past but the beers are still good.
One thing that I remember is one of the last times I sat and had a beer with my old boy he was tellin me about a mate of his who was told by his doctor that he had to give up the grog. Dad's comment on this was 'If you can't have a beer, you may as well be dead'
Don't know what my point is but I'm gonna hit Add Reply anyway.

Wyatt, Im not contradicting what your doctors has told you for your situation however I did want to comment in general on alcohol and irregular heartbeats (cardiac arrhythmias). It is well documented that alcohol can precipitate cardiac arrhythmias (including sudden death) and as such I would caution those who have them to not assume that 3 beers and the occasional splurge is also OK for them.

Cheers BDB

 

[sinkas]

This topic is getting back to the same thing that I have suggested in the past, should be a sticky;, to assist many in understanding what is a safe drinking regimen, and furthermore how to assess it.

 

[mattwest]

Just to complicate matters even further, having just moved to the UK for a stint with work, I haven't had a homebrew for four months now and my weight has gone up!

:huh:

 

[kabooby]

The CSIRO diet suggest that for men

- An average of no more than 4 standard drinks a day and no more than 28 standard drinks a week.
- No wore than 6 standard drinks in one session
- 1 or 2 Alcohol free days a week

This is for a healthy lifestyle. If you want to lose weight, you should drink less than this.

Standard drink is not a schooner either

When my sister worked in a country pub in England she used to get all the cyclist come in and drink Guiness. They said that it was low in carbs. All I could find was that it had the same amount as most of our mega beers. Maybe its lower than the english bitters.

Kabooby

 

[QldKev]

Standard drink is not a schooner either

We all know its actually a jug

QldKev

 

[Vlad the Pale Aler]

Every time this subject comes up, I post this link.

this link

 

[TidalPete]

Being a 40 something these threads give me the heebie jeebies.
Warren -

Warren,

When you're in the mid 60's with your kids gone you'll find that these things tend not to worry you too much.

At this age you know that something is going to kill you sooner or later, so it may as well be something that you enjoy.
Thankfully, I have only a hearing prob & another medical prob of no interest to anyone else so I can ATM safely Carry on Regardless as the old "Carry On" movies proclaimed.

Sorry to hear of your problems Beer Guy & hope that it all pans out for ok for you & I say that with all sincerity.

Cheers & sorry to be so morbid. GYFOUYA&HAHB :lol:

TP :beer:

 

[wyatt_girth]

Wyatt, I'm not contradicting what your doctors has told you for your situation however I did want to comment in general on alcohol and irregular heartbeats (cardiac arrhythmias). It is well documented that alcohol can precipitate cardiac arrhythmias (including sudden death) and as such I would caution those who have them to not assume that 3 beers and the occasional splurge is also OK for them.

Cheers BDB

I also stress that this was advice given in reference to my own personal situation and that I am not suggesting that this is the same for anybody else. I recommend that professional medical advise should be sought to assess individual requirements and remedy. My post is only to tell of my own experience and is not intended as advice for anyone that may read it. I have removed my previous post to eliminate the possibility of someone mistaking for anything other than a recollection of my own experience.
Cheers
wyatt

 

[Beer Guy]

Cheers all for the advice, laughs and personal experiences.

PS I thought this is time for a bit of a lecture

If anything I now realise that you should get regulary checked by a GP for the basics. High blood pressure damages not just your heart but your kidney's eyes and brain. I didn't even have any symptoms untill my arm and fingers went numb and chest started to feel tight and then I dicked around for a few hours thinking I strained a muscle. I am not even 35 yet. I am super lucky and whilst i have to minimise my drinking, drop some kgs, limit cholesterol and sodium intake I still get to brew and live a reasonably normal life.

cheers and AHB beers
Richard.

 

[oldbugman]

The CSIRO diet suggest that for men

- An average of no more than 4 standard drinks a day and no more than 28 standard drinks a week.

Funny isnt 4 standard drinks classed as binge drinking?

 

[kabooby]

Funny isnt 4 standard drinks classed as binge drinking?

Yeah probably. Im still looking for a diet that says you can have more

 

[kabooby]

Cheers all for the advice, laughs and personal experiences.

PS I thought this is time for a bit of a lecture

If anything I now realise that you should get regulary checked by a GP for the basics. High blood pressure damages not just your heart but your kidney's eyes and brain. I didn't even have any symptoms untill my arm and fingers went numb and chest started to feel tight and then I dicked around for a few hours thinking I strained a muscle. I am not even 35 yet. I am super lucky and whilst i have to minimise my drinking, drop some kgs, limit cholesterol and sodium intake I still get to brew and live a reasonably normal life.

cheers and AHB beers
Richard.

At least you know now and can make the changes you have to. Because of family history my Dad had been at me for about a year to get a check up. I just thought that I was young, ate pretty good food, and while carrying a few extra kilos was not that overweight.
My test results told me otherwise.

Glad I know now as I have lost about 8kg and feel heaps better. All while enjoying a beer

Kabooby :icon_cheers:

 

[Doc]

There is a flip side to all this.

Fuelled by beer. 101 year old runs marathon.

Buster Martin smokes more than a dozen cigarettes and drinks an average of 7-8 full pints of beer usually at least one during a break in the middle of his daily run every day.

Doc

 

[Zwickel]

I have three iron rules to stay healthy:

stay away from horses back side, from girls front side and from any Doctor anyway

 

[swaam]

Beerguy,
do you remember when they warned us against eating more than three eggs a week? or, when they said don't be around people with colds?

I reckon it's all a crock, what they should say is; for each egg you eat you'll need to exercise for 1 hour (or whatever); or, if you want give your immune system a boost, don't be scared of getting the occasional cold.

Look at all the preservatives that go in food to keep it like new; just so as we may never be subject to any germs or slightly off quality stuff. I believe, this pursuit of perfect food, is more damaging because of all these chemicals (preservatives etc) they now add, that haven't been with us throughout our evolution, plus, we'd be better to be poisoned occasionally, just to build our immunity up against the more deadly threats like cancer etc.

Back on the heart issue; did your doctor say to you before, you need to get into exercise and lose weight?

I've had blood pressure taken but never been asked by a doctor; what do I eat? or, how much do I exercise? Our whole health system is nothing but reactionary; once you are ill, they give you medicine, or operate to fix.

A mate of mine was told he had type 2 diabetes a 3 years ago, and the doctor told him he'd need to go on oral medicine to control it. My mate then had to ask the doctor what he could do instead of taking medicine, to which the doctor advised to lose about 20 kilo's (exercise and diet), which he did, and he is now medicine free, and well within the guidelines (which he monitors), AND he still drinks beer.

Beerguy, surely if you go out and exercise, you could still endulge in the occasional beer or 6- what's the use of living if you can't live.

 

[swaam]

...... by the way, have you ever tried 'dry enzyme'? I've used it in my beers for the last year. It removes the residual sugars, and definitely makes the beer a bit drier, and supposedly, reduces your sugar intake.

 

[newguy]

Sometimes the doctors do some harm with their strict recommendations. I didn't get to know any of my grandparents because they were all dead by the time I was born, except for my step-grandma. I'm only the 2nd generation to be born in Canada; my grandparents were all from 'the old country.' Russia, Poland and the Ukraine. My step-grandma barely spoke English - she conversed in a mixture of Ukrainian and very bad English. And she was spry as hell. At 90, she was more active than I am now at 37.

Her secret? She was half pissed most of the time. As soon as her soaps came on at 1pm, she'd be up and down the stairs to the basement where she kept her bottle of rye for the odd nip. She kept a huge garden and did a LOT of cooking for her family. She was very active for her age. Then one day her son discovered her in the bathtub, where she had fallen the day before. The doctor told her that alcohol was strictly off limits, and she obeyed him. She was dead 2 years later. Did abstaining have anything to do with it? Maybe, maybe not. But when she stopped drinking she was no longer active. The alcohol dulled the pain of all her aches that her age caused. As soon as she stopped drinking, she basically withered. Those last 2 years were spent crippled from her arthritis and she was in the hospital most of the time.

Now I have to wonder what was going through the doctor's mind. If a woman lives to 92 and has the occasional drink, let her keep doing it! What harm will it do to let her continue to do something that she's done for most of the last 50 or 60 years? Did the alcohol have anything to do with the fall in the tub? Probably. But she lived for 92 years without having a major fall - the odds against having another fall were pretty damn good.

Sorry for the rant.

 

[kabooby]

Swaam, dont tar all docters with the same brush.

My doctor gave me an oportunity to lose some weight before he put me on medication for my high blood pressure. It was only once my cholesterol test came back high that he decided to put me on medication for both. He said try and loose some weight and we will test again in a few weeks. Went back 5 weeks later and the results were much better. I am now on half tablets untill we test again in a few months.

Kabooby

 

[swaam]

........ that's good Kabooby, should be more of them, likewise with Dentists. Funnily enough, general 'mouthcare' can play a fairly big hand in preventing certain forms of heart disease, so a bit of preventative dentistry can also help, who's visited a dental hygenist?