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[kjparker]

For sure, I swirl my chiller around every 5 or 10 min for the same effect.
The benefit of the automation is that it's constant and about 20min faster to get to pitching temperature than swirling every 5 or 10 minutes.

I'm probably going to sound like an areshole, but unfortunately, that's my nature, but if you had clicked on the link and read the the article you would have had a slight understanding of what the **** is going on in the thread.
no-one cares if you're happy swirling your wort every 5 or ten minutes or if you can afford a pump or not.

If you need a cuddle to feel better, please let someone know

Cheers,

BF

 

[loikar]

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Ahhh Clueless....

Need I say anything more...

 

[kjparker]

Ahhh Clueless....

Need I say anything more...

tell me the cartoon didnt fit. Go on, I dare's ya!

 

[loikar]

I am glad I gave you guys something to talk about....very pleased I helped out.

Typed that exact phrase into the search and came up with a bunch of ****...nothing looking like a discussion on this piece of equipment...maybe I just didnt try hard enough. Ooops.

Have fun!

About 119 results (0.14 seconds)

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awww....mp;x=7&y=15

I'm happy you're happy.


BF

 

[Salt]

About 119 results (0.14 seconds)

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awww....mp;x=7&y=15

I'm happy you're happy.


BF

I got 359 results in 0.16 seconds...does that make my google better than yours?

I used the AHB search...

If you're talking about using Google, then the majority of the internet itself is based on things that people have already posted/uploaded.

BTW..thanks for showing me how to search a specific site using Google......seriously.

We're all happy

 

[loikar]

tell me the cartoon didnt fit. Go on, I dare's ya!

Would you like a cuddle?

 

[loikar]

I got 359 results in 0.16 seconds...does that make my google better than yours?

No, it just means you have a delusion where you think 'your google' is different to everyone elses.

I used the AHB search...

Well, THERE'S your problem!

If you're talking about using Google, then the majority of the internet itself is based on things that people have already posted/uploaded.

Re-enforcing the fact that this thread should never have come into existence.

BTW..thanks for showing me how to search a specific site using Google......seriously.

No problem, I would do the same for an extract brewer.

We're all happy

How many of you are in there?

Enjoy your day.

All of you

BF

 

[argon]

seeing as this topic is so rad...

I'm interested to know if anyone has setup a whirlpool chiller whilst using an external plate chiller. I don't really like the idea of putting big lumps of copper in my hot wort and am looking at a 30 plate chiller instead, but would prefer to keep the majority of cold break in the kettle also.

I would imagine the results would be very similar if the angle of return was correct.

 

[Malted]

Would you like a cuddle?

Ok but you have to be the little spoon this time

 

[loikar]

seeing as this topic is so rad...

I'm interested to know if anyone has setup a whirlpool chiller whilst using an external plate chiller. I don't really like the idea of putting big lumps of copper in my hot wort and am looking at a 30 plate chiller instead, but would prefer to keep the majority of cold break in the kettle also.

I would imagine the results would be very similar if the angle of return was correct.

Now that's an Idea!.

So if you pumped your Wort from:
kettle > Plate chiller > Pump > Immersion chiller wort return
You should have your Wort to pitching temp under 10min
Then you could whirlpool, let the break material settle and rack into the fermenter.

But then again, if your water was going from your immersion chiller to your plate chiller, i don't think it would make too much difference.

If you could have 2 separate water lines, one for your immersion and one for your plate it would work well.
or if you found a way of chilling the water in between the 2 chillers.
ie: Immersion > miracle box plate > plate chiller

Could be done, comes down the money Vs time Vs effort thing I suppose.


BF

 

[argon]

What i was after is removing the immersion chiller all together and only having the external plate chiller.

If one were to have 2 chillers, i would suggest to use the copper one (immersion chiller) as a water pre-chiller in an ice bath to lower the water temp prior to it hitting the plate chiller.

 

[donburke]

What i was after is removing the immersion chiller all together and only having the external plate chiller.

If one were to have 2 chillers, i would suggest to use the copper one (immersion chiller) as a water pre-chiller in an ice bath to lower the water temp prior to it hitting the plate chiller.

if you have chilled the wort already (i.e. when it exits your plate chiller) why would you want to return it to the rest of the hot wort ? to seperate the cold break ?

you could do this by taking the wort to a fermenter (conical would be ideal) and then dropping the cold break out after its settled

 

[argon]

if you have chilled the wort already (i.e. when it exits your plate chiller) why would you want to return it to the rest of the hot wort ? to seperate the cold break ?

you could do this by taking the wort to a fermenter (conical would be ideal) and then dropping the cold break out after its settled

Because on the first pass through with ambient water the wort may not be at the desired temperature (highly likely with QLD ambient water temps in the high 20s through summer)... hence requiring a second pass.

Also, as outlined in the article in discussion, returning cooled wort back into the kettle will lower the overall temperature more quickly. Excluding the hot break from the fermentor is but one of the benefits.

 

[donburke]

Because on the first pass through with ambient water the wort may not be at the desired temperature (highly likely with QLD ambient water temps in the high 20s through summer)... hence requiring a second pass.

Also, as outlined in the article in discussion, returning cooled wort back into the kettle will lower the overall temperature more quickly. Excluding the hot break from the fermentor is but one of the benefits.

i'd say you will lose efficiency by returning the cooled wort to the kettle

yes it will drop the overall temperature of the wort by doing so, which would be great in stopping any further isomerisation, or great to lock in aroma of late hop additions ... but as your wort approaches the temperature of the cooling water the law of diminishing returns would apply ... kinda what happens with an immersion chiller

 

[stux]

I don't think there is any point doing the whirlpool without an immersion chiller. The point is the turbulence causes more rapid cooling

But a recirculating external plate chiller would nit suffer from this

I guess having a bit of a whirlpool might help mix up the hot and returning cool wort

 

[argon]

i'd say you will lose efficiency by returning the cooled wort to the kettle

yes it will drop the overall temperature of the wort by doing so, which would be great in stopping any further isomerisation, or great to lock in aroma of late hop additions ... but as your wort approaches the temperature of the cooling water the law of diminishing returns would apply ... kinda what happens with an immersion chiller

Not following... what efficiency? are you referring to the rate at which the wort cools?

Are you suggesting that a single run through a plate chiller with ambient water is more efficient at cooling the entire batch volume than returning the cooled wort back into the kettle for a second and subsequent pass?

Diminishing returns is a moot point with any chilling method. It all depends on the temp differential of the 2 fluids in this case.

I see it as a very simple setup. A reverse HERMS... a HEWS ( Heat Exchange Return Wort System) Just keep pumping the wort out of the kettle through the chiller and back again, whilst monitoring temperature. Once the rate of change has has diminished to an unacceptable level, one has 2 options;
1. divert to fermentor if wort is at acceptable pitching range
2. connect water prechiller and run cooler water through plate chiller until wort is at acceptable pitching range

I don't think there is any point doing the whirlpool without an immersion chiller. The point is the turbulence causes more rapid cooling

But a recirculating external plate chiller would nit suffer from this

I guess having a bit of a whirlpool might help mix up the hot and returning cool wort

I disagree. Adding a small amount of cool fluid to a large amount of hot fluid will quickly lower the temperature of the entire volume. The benefit being, in the case of wort production, that isomerisation is halted more quickly, break forms more rapidly, and quickly lowering the point below the range at which SMM is hydrolized to DMS.

 

[QldKev]

I didn't know you were a moderator over at Stormfront !

:icon_offtopic:

Nope, it's a car one

Also re-reading that I missed a comma in an important place, I am not a mod over there.

On another forum (non homebrew) that I'm a member of the mods would ...
should be
On another forum (non homebrew) that I'm a member of, the mods would ...


Anyhow, back to topic.


QldKev

 

[manticle]

Do you have an Uncle Jack?

 

[komodo]

Just clicked that storm front link - Holy crap those people breath the same air as me

 

[argon]

just had a quick browse through the threads... lol'd at

What are some Nazi quotes about Jazz Music?