American Pale Ale Gurus.

[yardy]

ok, this is what i'm going with, just made additions of some amber & choc and upped the IBU to 30 odd with larger adds of pearle & simcoe at FWH.

3500 pale
1500 pils
.500 amber
.500 munich1
.100 choc

FWH 12 gm pearle
FWH 12 gm simcoe

20 min 10 gm amarillo

10 min 10 gm cascade

0 min 10 gm amarillo
0 min 10 gm cascade

just wanted to know if the amber & choc additions are not over the top as i haven't used them before.

Cheers
Yard

 

[yardy]

anyone ? :huh:

 

[JasonY]

My 2c, I would drop the Pils and just use pale not sure what it would bring to the party. It should be hoppy but not over the top which sounds like what you want. What yeast? hard to beat 1056 but I have tried a few different strains and they all turned out good.

Looks like a tasty beer in any event.

Good luck.

 

[razz]

G'day Yardy. I recently used 500 gms of amber in an ESB. It does give off a strong biscuity taste at that amount, you probably won't want it in an APA.

 

[Aussie Claret]

Yardy,
I'd cut down the choc from 100g to 50g as it may make it too dark, I've never used amber malt myself but 500g seems a little high also. At work at present but I think you might be heading to an amber beer rather than a APA.

How come no crystal?
AC

 

[yardy]

My 2c, I would drop the Pils and just use pale not sure what it would bring to the party. It should be hoppy but not over the top which sounds like what you want. What yeast? hard to beat 1056 but I have tried a few different strains and they all turned out good.

Looks like a tasty beer in any event.

Good luck.

Jason,
Using US-05 dry from craftbrewer, thanks for the reply.

G'day Yardy. I recently used 500 gms of amber in an ESB. It does give off a strong biscuity taste at that amount, you probably won't want it in an APA.

Razz,
OK, thanks for that, dropped it back to 250.

Yardy,
I'd cut down the choc from 100g to 50g as it may make it too dark, I've never used amber malt myself but 500g seems a little high also. At work at present but I think you might be heading to an amber beer rather than a APA.

How come no crystal?
AC

Hey AC, long time no see,
OK, I've cut the choc back to 50gm and added 250gm crystal, think it could stand a bit more ?

Cheers for the replies fellas
Yard

 

[dreamboat]

250g crystal and 500g munich???




dreamboat

 

[yardy]

250g crystal and 500g munich???

yeah, and ? ......

 

[dreamboat]

Seems like a lot of "sweet" grains to be putting into a Pale Ale.
I was unsure whether you were replacing the munich with the xtal.


dreamboat

 

[SJW]

OK I am no APA pro but this is what I have on tap atm. Just keep it simple. I also should of dry hopped this one.
All my APA's are just pale and some sort of wheat.


71 APA
American Pale Ale


Type: All Grain
Date: 13/09/2008
Batch Size: 25.00 L
Brewer: Stephen Wright
Boil Size: 30.64 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 75 min Equipment: Keg - Ale
Taste Rating(out of 50): 0.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
5000.00 gm Pale Malt, Ale (Barrett Burston) (5.9 EBC) Grain 90.91 %
500.00 gm Carawheat (Weyermann) (98.5 EBC) Grain 9.09 %
20.00 gm Magnum [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 25.6 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (20 min) Hops 6.6 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 0.5 IBU
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1.00 tsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs SafAle American Ale (US56) (DCL Yeast #S-05) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.052 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.052 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.013 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.16 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.08 %
Bitterness: 32.6 IBU Calories: 489 cal/l
Est Color: 17.4 EBC Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body Total Grain Weight: 5500.00 gm
Sparge Water: 14.15 L Grain Temperature: 22.2 C
Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C TunTemperature: 22.2 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Single Infusion, Medium Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 14.00 L of water at 73.7 C 67.0 C
10 min Mash Out Add 8.00 L of water at 94.1 C 76.0 C

 

[drsmurto]

Yardy

Seems like you are after an APA on the bottom ends of the scale as far as IBU goes.

I took this along to a camping trip on the weekend for a bunch of unwashed and it got smashed in a day.

20L, OG 1.052, IBU 36

4.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.9 EBC) Grain 84.21 %
0.50 kg Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 10.53 %
0.25 kg Crystal, BB (180.0 EBC) Grain 5.26 %
25.00 gm Cascade [6.30 %] (20 min) Hops 11.9 IBU
5.00 gm Nelson Sauvin [11.00 %] (15 min) Hops 3.4 IBU
15.00 gm Green Bullet [13.40 %] (15 min) Hops 12.5 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo [8.90 %] (10 min) Hops 8.1 IBU
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
25.00 gm Amarillo [8.90 %] (20 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
1 Pkgs Nottingham Yeast (Lallemand #-) Yeast-Ale

I like the idea of a hopburst for the lower IBU APAs as i can still stuff a decent amount of flavour and aroma in. I quite regularly sub in up to 1kg of Munich as a base malt for that extra maltiness.


Amber (IMO) goes well in milds, ESBs, brown porters and the odd stout. Not sure how it would fare in a hop driven beer like an APA.

Just my 2 c
DrSmurto

 

[SJW]

Just a note on my APA recipe 2 posts up, that 9% Carawheat is too much IMO, I am having one now and next time I will go with something more like Dr Smurtos but without the crystal (maybe).

Steve

 

[gerald]

i just did this based on what was said here,

3.20 kg Pale Malt
1.20 kg Pilsner
0.40 kg Wheat Malt
0.20 kg Munich Malt
5.00 gm Pearle (60 min)
10.00 gm Simcoe (60 min)
10.00 gm Amarillo (20 min)
10.00 gm Cascade (10 min)
10.00 gm Cascade (0 min)
10.00 gm Amarillo (0 min)

mashed at 67*C.
boil was a bit over an hour. will top up the fermenter with all the lost water tomorrow and pitch the yeast, using nottingham. will ferment at 17-18*C

will post how it turns out.

Catchyas
Gerald

 

[matti]

Nottingham!?
hmm Please Dooo tell how it turn out.
Drinking my APA ATM.

North2South APA

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (L): 30.00 Wort Size (L): 30.00
Total Grain (kg): 6.80
Anticipated OG: 1.050 Plato: 12.38
Anticipated SRM: 7.2
Anticipated IBU: 48.2
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

% Amount Name Origin Extract SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
77.6 5.28 kg. Pale Malt(2-row) Great Britain 1.039 3
15.5 1.06 kg. Weyermann Pilsner Germany 1.008 2
3.5 0.24 kg. JWM Crystal 140 Australia 1.002 74
3.3 0.23 kg. Flaked Oats America 1.001 2

Exract represented as SG.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
35.09 g. Wye Northdown Pellet 7.80 30.0 60 min.
17.09 g. Cascade Pellet 6.80 6.5 30 min.
22.09 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 9.00 7.3 20 min.
22.09 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 9.00 4.4 10 min.
15.00 g. Cascade Pellet 9.00 0.0 in cube


Yeast
-----

S-05


Mash Schedule
-------------

Mash Type: Multi Step

Grain kg: 6.80
Water Qts: 33.58 - Before Additional Infusions
Water L: 31.78 - Before Additional Infusions

L Water Per kg Grain: 4.67 - Before Additional Infusions

Acid Rest Temp : 0 Time: 0
Protein Rest Temp : 0 Time: 0
Intermediate Rest Temp : 55 Time: 10
Saccharification Rest Temp : 67 Time: 75
Mash-out Rest Temp : 72 Time: 35
Sparge Temp : 76 Time: 60

It is nice....

 

[yardy]

only kegged it yesterday but it's turned out pretty good, in my humble limited knowledge of anything opinion.
it's pretty much what i was after, the Amarillo & Cascade are there but not overpowering, i don't think the .250 of Amber was too much as it seems pretty balanced overall.
Thanks for all the help fellas :icon_cheers: