Hi,Hey guys sorry have not been on this thread much recently and just wanted to give you a bit of an update to the canning machine. Some of you guys have been wanting to use other cans and we have been talking with Visy about this and they have been really great to deal with. They purchased a machine to run some tests on and they have supplied us more details about how to make the required chuck to suit their can lids. So we are in the process of making this new chuck.
I know some of you guys have used our existing chuck and some of you guys have been making your own chucks but at least we will have an official Visy can chuck available soon so you guys can purchase can's from Visy and use on our machine.
We have tried to work with Orora but they have not been as helpful to deal with so far. We do have quite a few small breweries using the machines and now hundreds of home brewers also using this machine. I think the price of the machine doesn't make it affordable to everyone but certainly people who want the convenience of disposable cans then it's hard to beat the Cannular.
It seems the last few pages are getting off topic but really this thread was to help people who want to learn more about Canning. So if you guys have any particular questions on this topic please just ask.
I live in Norway and have just ordered the Cannular which arrived on the first shipment of seamers for the Norwegian market.
Is the CDL chuck far away? CDL is pretty much the "standard" here and therefor urging to get my hand on a CDL chuck.
We have had a few other customers ask about guards to protect you from splash. Brewers especially want to fill the cans right to the brim to evacuate oxygen and as a result this can lead to more splashing when the can starts spinning. So I think guards are a good idea. One of our customers made magnetic guards which seemed to work OK. We will get back to this forum when we have some other solutions available but it is something we are working on.Was thinking something like this with a handle on the front and magnets at the top and bottom.
My theory is that you can quickly pivot the cover from out of the way to 'in place' and it would seat itself in correct position.
I doubt it would be that difficult to mock up a concept with 3D parts etc but just wanted to know if this was on keglands priority list. I would have definitely held off and bought one of the IP67 power supplies too but I have a system worked out now. Don't get me wrong though - I appreciate the fact that Australia is essentially the test bed for Kegland products, I would rather it that way than wait for 2 years like anything else out of the states.
Hopefully my joined date and number of posts absolves me from any perceived kegland bias!
I believe customers are purchasing from VISY directly. If you only need silver skins (not printed) I believe you can purchase 1 pallet. A pallet of cans is about 8,000 units.Hopefully we'll be able to retro fit those guards to existing units?
Also, are people contacting VISY directly for empty cans or via another outlet? What's the smallest amount we can order?
We have done some testing since you last came in and also used some of the VISY cans. To seam the Visy cans you have to purchase this chuck:I have contacted Visy but the smallest plain can is a half pallet of 4000 cans at about 25 c per can and lid
Smaller quantities of printed cans are available but printing set up and manufacture and packaging will cost in excess of $2000
However, if enough people make the enquires direct to Visy they may rethink supplying smaller quantities
When I got my canning machine I had to make a new die for the top of the van and was given about 200 cans with the machine
Kee very kindly gave me some 300 ml cans to try and the boys at KL also gave me a couple of 500ml cans (on a later visit) when I also explained to Kee my problem of sorting out my machine. Kee was also interested to find out if I could seal both Visy & KL cans with the same rolling dies
Can you please draw to Kee’s attention that the only thing that I need to alter for doing the different cans is the height!
My machine works fine with all the lids (G 64, CDLE & KLWe have done some testing since you last came in and also used some of the VISY cans. To seam the Visy cans you have to purchase this chuck:
The standard rolls on the machine seam the Visy CDLE lids fine.
With regards to height we have this taller spacer:
So what can sizes did you want to seam? Did you have another can size where these above parts did not work?
I sold the other one, the funny thing was out of 5 requests for more information 4 were from coffee brewers!My machine works fine with all the lids (G 64, CDLE & KL
My canner is one of the Chinese automatic (or semi auto) machines
Glad you are getting enjoyment out of it would have been a shame if they had ended up as scrap metal.It took a few few fine adjustments for my mate to turn up the top chuck to hold the lids.
I got a pile of photos & measurements from a cannula top clutch and went with that ( the nylon clutches sat too low in the lid)
Any idea when you'll have this chuck available again? Can't seem to find any information about when you guys will have it back in stock, and when I called Ollie didn't seem to know either.Yes we now have the CDL chuck available. Here is a video we made to show you how to install it and setup up the rolls:
Sorry it's taken a bit longer than we thought. We have been meaning to do this for some time but only just finished this video today.
This will enable you to do the VISY cans:
Awesome job. Thanks for sharing the files. I am sure other customers will really appreciate what you have done too.I eventually made a screen for the canner. Works really well. Files located below if anyone want to make their own.
3D STL files & dxf file for the acrylic screen located here: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AkcB3oxki0kijrpJaND8rYZwv-iP6g
The two wedge pieces were designed so that the SBR12 linear rail could be easily mounted vertically but they are a little bit off. They can just be sanded a bit to get them right though.