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All About Canning - Cannular Can Seamers and More...

Discussion in 'AHB Sponsors Shop' started by KegLand-com-au, 21/2/19.

 

  1. awfulknauful

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    Posted 22/7/19
    I have the one they copied it off, you can have it for $150
     
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    Sounds interesting can you pm me?
     
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    So I've kegged about 3 cases of beer with this machine. I'd love to hear more about how much pressure and how long people are pushing and pulling the arm. I'm having some inconsistency issues with mine. Sometimes they gush right after seaming and other times it's after I deliver them to the people in the beer group. And sometimes, even squeezing them doesn't show signs of a leak, but if left in a cooler for a few hours, I'll find a good amount of beer at the bottom. It's starting to get a bit frustrating not having a consistent start/stop point on the arm. When it works, it works great, but I'll go through stretches of 6-8 badly seamed cans, then 6-8 well seamed, I'm not sure what to make of it. If anyone has found some good videos on illustrating the force used fwd and back and or the timing on how long to hold the arm in position or speed in which to move it, it would be greatly appreciated. Youtube only has a couple videos.

    Likewise, +1 on adding a plastic beer guard/shield for the machine. Even when wiping the can down after it's been placed in the chuck and prior to starting the machine, it makes a complete mess on some cans!
     
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    Kegland will you or do you have replacement rollers (dies) for the Camille and Will they fit the other machines that are advertised on eBay?
     
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    Posted 31/7/19
    Hi,

    I live in Norway and have just ordered the Cannular which arrived on the first shipment of seamers for the Norwegian market.
    Is the CDL chuck far away? CDL is pretty much the "standard" here and therefor urging to get my hand on a CDL chuck.

    -T
     
  7. KegLand-com-au

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    Yes we now have the CDL chuck available. Here is a video we made to show you how to install it and setup up the rolls:


    Sorry it's taken a bit longer than we thought. We have been meaning to do this for some time but only just finished this video today.

    This will enable you to do the VISY cans:
    https://www.kegland.com.au/visy-chuck.html
     
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  8. KegLand-com-au

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    Posted 4/9/19
    We have had a few other customers ask about guards to protect you from splash. Brewers especially want to fill the cans right to the brim to evacuate oxygen and as a result this can lead to more splashing when the can starts spinning. So I think guards are a good idea. One of our customers made magnetic guards which seemed to work OK. We will get back to this forum when we have some other solutions available but it is something we are working on.

    Thanks for taking the time to draw up and send your design ideas through too. We always appreciate customers input like this.
     
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    Posted 11/9/19 at 1:35 AM
    Hopefully we'll be able to retro fit those guards to existing units?

    Also, are people contacting VISY directly for empty cans or via another outlet? What's the smallest amount we can order?
     
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    Posted 11/9/19 at 9:15 AM
    I believe customers are purchasing from VISY directly. If you only need silver skins (not printed) I believe you can purchase 1 pallet. A pallet of cans is about 8,000 units.
     
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    Posted 11/9/19 at 11:02 PM
    I have contacted Visy but the smallest plain can is a half pallet of 4000 cans at about 25 c per can and lid
    Smaller quantities of printed cans are available but printing set up and manufacture and packaging will cost in excess of $2000
    However, if enough people make the enquires direct to Visy they may rethink supplying smaller quantities
    When I got my canning machine I had to make a new die for the top of the van and was given about 200 cans with the machine
    Kee very kindly gave me some 300 ml cans to try and the boys at KL also gave me a couple of 500ml cans (on a later visit) when I also explained to Kee my problem of sorting out my machine. Kee was also interested to find out if I could seal both Visy & KL cans with the same rolling dies
    Can you please draw to Kee’s attention that the only thing that I need to alter for doing the different cans is the height!
     
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    Posted 12/9/19 at 8:58 AM
    We have done some testing since you last came in and also used some of the VISY cans. To seam the Visy cans you have to purchase this chuck:
    https://www.kegland.com.au/visy-chuck.html

    The standard rolls on the machine seam the Visy CDLE lids fine.

    With regards to height we have this taller spacer:
    https://www.kegland.com.au/cannular-table-spacer-used-for-330ml-and-375ml-cans.html

    So what can sizes did you want to seam? Did you have another can size where these above parts did not work?
     
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    Posted 12/9/19 at 9:05 AM
    My machine works fine with all the lids (G 64, CDLE & KL
    My canner is one of the Chinese automatic (or semi auto) machines
     
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    Posted 12/9/19 at 10:28 PM
    I sold the other one, the funny thing was out of 5 requests for more information 4 were from coffee brewers!
    And the one who bought it, just bought it straight off, and he had a coffee business in Richmond.
     
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    Posted 12/9/19 at 10:39 PM
    It took a few few fine adjustments for my mate to turn up the top chuck to hold the lids.
    I got a pile of photos & measurements from a cannula top clutch and went with that ( the nylon clutches sat too low in the lid)
     
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    Glad you are getting enjoyment out of it would have been a shame if they had ended up as scrap metal.
     
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