Advice On Apa

[AndrewQLD]

Hi all,

My brew for this weekend is going to be an APA, and I would like some comments on the recipe if possible .

I am going with the melanoidin malt, as I believe this will give me a nice malt profile , only 100g of the dark crystal for color ( I am not a big fan of the caramel flavor from crystal malt :blink: ), and of course Cascade for flavor and aroma.
Pick it to bits guys as I have no experience with this style h34r: .

Regards
Andrew

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com
Recipe: American Pale Ale
Brewer: Andrew Clark
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 19.00 L
Boil Size: 26.81 L
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated Color: 7.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 40.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.0 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.10 kg Pilsner, Malt Craft Export (Joe White) (1Grain 90.1 %
0.35 kg Melanoidin (Hoepfner) (20.0 SRM) Grain 7.7 %
0.10 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (116.8 SRM) Grain 2.2 %
30.00 gm Challenger [7.20%] (90 min) Hops 28.1 IBU
30.00 gm Cascade [4.50%] (15 min) Hops 8.3 IBU
35.00 gm Cascade [4.50%] (5 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [4.50%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Australian Ale (White Labs #WLP009) [StarYeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 4.55 kg
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Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 13.65 L of water at 74.9 C 67.0 C 60 min

 

[warrenlw63]

Andrew,

Sounds the goods to me. :super:

I made an APA a little while ago. Added 1kg of Hoepfner Vienna (40 litre batch). Left a nice malt character to the beer and can recommend it.

Not to sure with melanoidin. I've only used it once in a Belgian Pale. Seemed to leave a nice enough flavour though.

Go for it.

Warren -

 

[Jim_Levet]

I have found that the WLP009 can strip a beer of hop flavours & aroma. Try the WLP001 if available.
James

 

[neonmeate]

melanoidin's good, 350g will give you a nice bready maltiness. i used it in my last IPA and i liked it. melanoidin's like concentrated munich malt, it's pretty hard to miss, and will work all right. i think you could make it darker if you want - you can go up to the 13SRM range if you want to use ale malt instead of pils for example. or perhaps a dash of amber malt for some toastiness. also with pils malt and only 100g crystal your FG might be pretty low so the slightly higher mash temp is a good idea. you want a little bit of body for this style.
otherwise i'm sure it'll be pretty tasty.

 

[Jazman]

i used about 150 melondian in my last one it it turned out good so here my recipe btw i prefer an addition @ flame out to dry hopping

Nelson Apa

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 25.00 Wort Size (L): 25.00
Total Grain (kg): 6.10
Anticipated OG: 1.05792 Plato: 14.252
Anticipated EBC: 12.8
Anticipated IBU: 42.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Formulas Used
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Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
% Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.

Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Tinseth
Tinseth Concentration Factor: 1.30

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 0 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
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45.1 2.75 kg. Bairds Marris Otter England 318.450 5
3.3 0.20 kg. Weyermann Caramunich I Germany 300.710 100
45.1 2.75 kg. Weyermann Pilsner Germany 317.420 4
2.5 0.15 kg. Hoepfner Melanoidin Germany 309.068 40
4.1 0.25 kg. Weyermann Carapils (Carafoam) Germany 309.069 3

Potential represented as IOB- HWE ( L / kg ).


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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13.00 g. Southern Cross Pellet 12.10 16.8 60 min.
15.00 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 8.50 10.4 30 min.
35.00 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 8.50 15.7 15 min.
20.00 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 8.50 0.0 0 min.


Yeast
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WYeast 1028 London Ale

 

[big d]

looks good andrew.ive noticed a few recipes on various forums using pilsner malt in an apa and havent tried it yet so will be interested to see how it turns out.my apa im doing tomorrow will be all amarillo but will be mash hopped to see how this works out.malt bill is pale,melanoidin,crystal and carapils.

cheers
big d

 

[AndrewQLD]

Thanks for the pearls Guys,

Warren, I have'nt used melanoidin yet, so I am looking forward to the results.

Jim, I have'nt noticed hop flavor/aroma stripping with this yeast, but I have only used it in 2 brews so far. I like the bready aroma this yeast gives of and have been very pleased with the results so far.

Neonmeate, you hit the nail on the head as far as my higher mash temp goes, unfortunately I am at the end of my stocks of grain and I only have pils malt left

Jazman, like the look of your recipe, I like to dry hop with EKG in my Bosun Best Bitter, is cascade not a good hop for dry hopping?

BigD, let us know how the mash hop goes with this brew

Seems to be the season for APAs

Regards Andrew

 

[Tim]

Has anyone brewed an APA using NZ Cascade flowers yet?? Im keen to see ho wthey go compared to US cascade.
I picked some up from ESB last week and they look the goods and at 8.1% AA they will be good for bittering as well.

I probably wont brew for at least three weeks, but i will report back on how they go.