100% Wheat Beer

[Mr Bond]

Did an evaluation yesterday as it's 14 days in bottle(prime time for a wheaty IMO)

Not much has changed from earlier tastings.If any thing it is a tad drier with a tangier finish.
It is quite clear that the barley component of a weizen adds body and sweetness to balance the tart wheat character and is prolly needed in a %age no less than 25%.Some of my tastiest ones in the past also contained a little light munich.
I tried the one primed with Light DME and it had a smoother sweeter flava(although very faint).

All in all this has been a worth while experiment,that if i was to repeat I would up my mash temp to 68c in an attempt to add some more body.

Dave

 

[Mr Bond]

Thought I'd add a foto

 

[Paleman]

Thought I'd add a foto

Looking good Dave. I'm jealous

How much more time in the bottle before it reaches it's drinking prime ?

Another month, or less ? Looks like you've got yourself a Quaffing Beauty. Hopefully we have ourselves an Indian Summer, long live the Wheaty's :beerbang:

Edit : Just read your second post above mine, two weeks ya reckon for prime drinking. ya better get quaffing then :chug:

Enjoy :super:

 

[tangent]

that looks delicious
your descriptions have my mouth fanging for a beer

 

[johnno]

I am brewing one of these tomorrow as well.

I'm not sure how I will like it as I bottled the 80% wheat 20% barley wheaty today and the runnings tasted fresh and crisp but finished very dry.

Time will tell I suppose.


Type: All Grain
Date: 1/02/2007
Batch Size: 27.00 L
Brewer:
Boil Size: 34.30 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 kg Wheat Malt (3.0 EBC) Grain 100.0 %
42.00 gm Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.50%] (60 min) Hops 18.6 IBU
1 Pkgs German Wheat (Wyeast Labs #3333) Yeast-Wheat



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.043 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.2 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.6 %
Bitterness: 18.6 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 5.3 EBC Color:

cheers
johnno

 

[Mr Bond]

Yeah, dry and thin is prolly a good description.

It's still worth it as an experiment though!

I've given a tally to a schofferhofer luver(occasional K,n K brewer) to try,so the feedback will be interesting.

 

[Ross]

I'm brewing this one tomorrow:

Brye wheat
American Wheat or Rye Beer

Type: All Grain
Date: 2/02/2007
Batch Size: 27.00 L
Boil Size: 35.31 L
Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.0
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
1.00 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 17.5 %
1.00 kg Wheat Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.0 EBC) Grain 17.5 %
1.00 kg Wheat Malt, Dark (Weyermann) (13.8 EBC) Grain 17.5 %
1.00 kg Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 17.5 %
1.00 kg Wheat, Torrified (Thomas Fawcett) (3.9 EBC) Grain 17.5 %
0.50 kg Carawheat (Weyermann) (98.5 EBC) Grain 8.8 %
0.20 kg Chocolate Wheat (Weyermann) (817.6 EBC) Grain 3.5 %
50.00 gm Liberty [4.30%] (60 min) Hops 20.3 IBU
40.00 gm Liberty [4.30%] (10 min) Hops 5.9 IBU
1 Pkgs American Ale (CraftBrewer #US-56) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.050 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.012 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.9 %
Bitterness: 26.2 IBU
Est Color: 35.7 EBC

Mashing at 68c single batch sparge.

cheers Ross

 

[lonte]

so what about 100% and a lager yeast? I've put the following recipe (abbreviated) together ... thoughts?

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.75 kg Wheat Malt Pale (2.0 SRM) Grain 95.0 %
0.25 kg Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Grain 5.0 %
10.00 gm Galena [13.00%] (60 min) Hops 15.5 IBU
25.00 gm Hersbrucker [3.80%] (5 min) Hops 1.9 IBU
2 Pkgs SafLager German Lager (DCL Yeast #S-189) Yeast-Lager

 

[Ross]

so what about 100% and a lager yeast? I've put the following recipe (abbreviated) together ... thoughts?

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.75 kg Wheat Malt Pale (2.0 SRM) Grain 95.0 %
0.25 kg Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Grain 5.0 %
10.00 gm Galena [13.00%] (60 min) Hops 15.5 IBU
25.00 gm Hersbrucker [3.80%] (5 min) Hops 1.9 IBU
2 Pkgs SafLager German Lager (DCL Yeast #S-189) Yeast-Lager

looks nice - was tempted to go the lager yeast myself, but decided i wasn't going to tie up the fermenter for so long with an experimental brew...

cheers Ross

 

[Weizguy]

so what about 100% and a lager yeast? I've put the following recipe (abbreviated) together ... thoughts?

OK, so I read this and I'm wondering if we're going off-topic here.

We were initially talking about a weizen style. In Germany (and Zwickel will prob confirm this) wheat beer should not be brewed with a lager yeast. Apart from the loss of weizen flavours, the Beer Tax and/or Beer Purity laws forbid it, IIRC.

To paraphrase Dr Seuss: "I would not, could not with a lager yeast. I could not, would not Sam I am...".

Oh, and Ross ( I prob can't help coming off as a b!tch here), your recipe is not a 100% wheatie, and prob should go to the "What are U brewing" thread.

Whew! I feel better now. How about U guys?

Seth out

 

[Stuster]

Hold on a minute, Lesseth. I'm sure somebody mentioned using different yeasts earlier in the thread.

Ah, here we are. :lol:

Yep. Doesn't seem to suit a wheat yeast.
Prob a bit heavy for my Summer tastes, but may well get a run for Winter with a German or London Ale yeast (or London III or ESB).
Thanks for the feedback.
It goes to show that wheat isn't just for weizen.

Seth

Not lagers I know, but....

Ross' isn't 100% wheat, but it's still a no-barley beer.

About the lager yeast, I'm with Ross. If you want something clean, why not use the standard US56 and see how it goes before tying yourself in to a full lager schedule on something that may or may not be worth it. On the other hand, experimentation is half the fun.

 

[johnno]

I am brewing one of these tomorrow as well.

I'm not sure how I will like it as I bottled the 80% wheat 20% barley wheaty today and the runnings tasted fresh and crisp but finished very dry.

Time will tell I suppose.
Type: All Grain
Date: 1/02/2007
Batch Size: 27.00 L
Brewer:
Boil Size: 34.30 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 kg Wheat Malt (3.0 EBC) Grain 100.0 %
42.00 gm Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.50%] (60 min) Hops 18.6 IBU
1 Pkgs German Wheat (Wyeast Labs #3333) Yeast-Wheat



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.043 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.2 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.6 %
Bitterness: 18.6 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 5.3 EBC Color:

cheers
johnno

Just collected all the runnings from this and will boil it up about 4. after I have picked one of the juniors up from school.

Threw a couple of handfuls of rice hulls in there and I was suprised I did not get a stuck sparge.

cheers
johnno

 

[warrenlw63]

Johnno! Whata ya doing mate? :lol:

100% Wheaty?? Keep that well away from the coeliacs sufferers. :blink:

Warren -

 

[Tony]

100% wheat malt recipe.
I would add a hand full of rice hulls (gulls), for piece of mind.
I usually do a 70/30% Wheat and Pale Malt for my Wheaty's

Cheers

Will i ever live this typo down


What next....... a 700 IBU 100% rye malt beer brewed with bakers yeast........mmmmmmmmmm sounds interesting

I do like the idea of the 100% wheat though.

May give it a go one day.

cheers

 

[DJR]

100% RYE! That would take all the rice gulls in the world Tony!!

Johnno, good to see that the 100% wheat works fine with just a bit of rice hulls, no need for any glucanase enzyme or anything like that. If one were fly sparging they could add in some barley malt to coat the bottom of the mash tun when lautering as well, but that sort of defeats the purpose, having a 5% barley wheat beer

 

[pint of lager]

Every time I see rice hulls written down, I have a chuckle as the term rice gulls leaps to mind. Was a great typo.

May your sparges always run.

 

[johnno]

Every time I see rice hulls written down, I have a chuckle as the term rice gulls leaps to mind. Was a great typo.

same here.

But i thought Tony was doing it for a stir :unsure: .




Only prob so far is that i was going for 1034 preboil gravity but I only got 1029.

Didn't whip that wheat enough.


cheers
johnno

 

[Tony]

It was a genuine typo........ i cant type and watch the screen at the same time and mostly im too lazy to go back and correct myself.

I always call them rice gulls now, its kind of catching

cheers

 

[Adamt]

I actually thought for a while they WERE called rice gulls. <_<

 

[Tony]

I know this is off topic but its a funny story related to that

When i was doing a lot of competetive shooting we used tubes of grease to lubricate the moving matal parts on the bolt and locking lugs.

It was the stuff you use on gears in fishing reals and had "REAL GREASE" written on the tube.

me and my friends beingas we are, decided to nickname it "FAKE GREASE"

we called it nothing but for years and one day the local gun shop owner caught on to something strange that had been happening in his shop.

People had been comming in for the last year or so asking for "FAKE GREASE"

He had been telling them there was no such thing and turning them away

we still called it fake grease after that though

cheers