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So, after 10 years and many appeals, it looks as though the 2 ringleaders of the so called Bali 9, are going to finally be executed tonight, at midnight Indonesian time, 3am est.

Being shot by firing squad is a pretty brutal way to meet your death and it's impossible to imagine what these blokes and their families are going through right now.

I don't have much time for illicit drugs, drug users, dealers, smugglers, ringleaders or any one that is prepared to profit from the misery that heroin, in this case, can bring on families of addicts.

But killing these 2 and the others who are facing the same fate, is not going to change a single thing. Barbarism such as this, has no place in a civilised society.

I'll probably wake up around that time, I usually do, but at least when I close my eyes again, it won't be because of government sanctioned homicide.
 
Yeah well, you don't strap 9kg of heroin to your body and go casually walking thru airports with big signs saying Drugs = Death

I have no sympathy. They knew the risks. And the risk was being shot by firing squad if caught.
 
Finally, I agree with something DBS says!

They knew the risks, they knew the rewards. They played with fire and now they're going to burn.
 
wide eyed and legless said:
I feel sorry for their parents knowing that they will be seeing them for the last time, that would be heart wrenching.
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unfortunately there are so many more tragic deaths of people everyday that don't get the chance to say goodbye. Not saying it wouldn't be hard though. I hope I'm never in the situation they (the parents and family) and nor should I be in it
 
An interesting point was made OP, I think,
"In civilised society"
Does everybody think that when they travel overseas, that the same rules, or civilisation applies there, as it does at home?
I think many do. I'm sure a lot are surprised they need a passport to go to Bali.
It is not a first world country. Do not expect the same treatment, privileges and benefits that you have at home. Don't expect to behave the same way and certainly don't think you can get away with frankly disgusting and disrespectful behaviour wherever you go.

And I'm not being specific about Bali, or Indonesia. Although that is my starting point and reference.

Lemon
 
The only reason I wont be going to Bali is because of all the other ******** aussie tourists....


Sometime we really need to stand back and take a look at ourselves
 
I walked into the lounge earlier , the Ch 7 news was on and the said that the Sunrise show was going to air 1/2 an hour earlier than usual tomorrow morning to cover the story.
Well **** me what story would that be I wonder .

Oh , the execution of 2 people who tried to smuggle a heap of drugs in a country that has a death penalty for such crimes.


I wonder what's for tea tomorrow night.
 
Points in question are, are prisons meant to punish or rehabilitate? or maybe both. Secondly they were carrying drugs out of the country not in, so even if they had got away with it, no Indonesians would have been affected by these drugs. Will their executions change behavior of drug dealers?, statistically, the answer is no, the king-pins don't actually do the donkey work. Then there is justice Indonesian style, a number of people that were involved in the Bali bombings are now walking free - kill someone and stuff their body in a suitcase and you get 18 years. And lastly, should the AFP have tipped of the Indonesian authorities as they would have all been caught anyway, just on Australian soil instead.

I believe the executions are purely political, giving the new president a sense of power and maybe a boost in popularity as he comes across as pissweak - which he is, these deaths will give some strength and some clout (maybe). It is also widely accepted that Indonesia is deeply corrupted from the top down as has been exposed by the bribe allegations of the judges involved with the case.
 
Yawn.

I'm for the 100% decriminalization of drugs worldwide, but this isn't an issue about drugs. This is a group of people that gambled. Sure as **** if they never got caught they would show zero remorse, they would be spending their cash right now with no remorse. They knew the consequences as I know the consequences to putting my life savings on black on roulette at the casino.
 
They tried to smuggle drugs through a country with laws everyone knows, the drugs were destined for Australia where people and families would have been affected and in most cases very badly. They did this for one reason, greed nothing else. If they got away with would they do it again? Had they done it before?
A truly awful way to come to your end but it was a choice and risk they took.
I hope it is as painless as it can be for them, I think it will be more painful and for much longer for their families.
 
Good to see the drug dealing scum getting what they deserve. I'm happy they didn't land 9 kg of heroin and destroy countless lives and kill a few from overdoses. They knew the risks. No sympathy here. Scum
 
hurry up and do it so we can stop seeing their faces on the news and glorifying what they were doing...

they did the crime... and new the risk
 
I dont get why so many people are defending the "poor junkies" that may have died from the smack that was entering the country. There is more than enough education in this country on the effects and addiction of drugs. It is all about life choices.
 
bradsbrew said:
I dont get why so many people are defending the "poor junkies" that may have died from the smack that was entering the country. There is more than enough education in this country on the effects and addiction of drugs. It is all about life choices.
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As long as they keep bringing 1275 into the country I'll be chewing it.

I think most of us are lucky that we have everything we need around us. Although life choices probably contribute a lot, I get the impression spiritual isolation drives a lot of addiction... With the other side of the coin being availability.

I think if they were going to give these guys the death penalty, they should have done it in the first six months, not 10-11 years later when they are potentially rehabilitated. That's a cluster if I ever saw one...
 
Is it not the case that our government knew what was going on and yet allowed them to leave the country and tipped off the authorities, and is therefore responsible for where the penalty was imposed.

Shame, if that's true.

I know they should have been aware of the risks, and probably got away with it many times before, but is death the best option, after so long?

Scum? - possibly. Idiots/dupes? - definitely. Criminal geniuses/ringleaders - questionable. Poor stupid *******s? Yeah.
 
Maybe they had trouble reading

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