Suggestions For Leftover Ingredients

[MattC]

Hi all, I am currently attempting to use up some old stock and turn into a half decent recipe (to a particular style if possible). I have the following ingredients left...

MALTS
Choc Malt - 190g
Pale Crystal - 150g
Roast Barley - 500g
Black Malt - 450g
Flaked Barley - 450g
Pilsner malt - 2.5kg
Vienna Malt - 1.5kg
Munich Malt - 2.5kg
Wheat - 500g
Melanoidin - 350g
Caramunich II - 150g
Carafa III - 500g
Bicuit - 250g

HOPS
Simcoe - 45g
Cascade - 95g
Pride of Ringwood - 35g

YEAST
4 x Pkts S-04
2 x Pkts US-05

Was trying to do something other than an APA or Amber Ale, as I have just done one each of those, I know my hop supply is pretty limited but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as I have brewers block at present

Cheers

 

[Fourstar]

You could get rid of the Pilsner, Wheat, Vienna, Caramunich, Pale crystal and biscuit in an interesting "amber ale" (i know thats what you dont want). Keep or omit the Choc as you see fit was using it as guesswork to up the colour.

Pilsner malt - 2.5kg
Vienna Malt - 1.5kg
Wheat - 500g
Caramunich II - 150g
Pale Crystal - 150g
Biscuit - 250g
Carafa III - 50g

Bitter with POR to 20 IBU
Cascade and Simcoe @ 20 for 15 IBU
Flameout addition of cascade and Simcoe of 20g each.

Ferment with US05.

 

[Fourstar]

Oh, another option is do a US oktoberfest ale with the all the vienna, pils and caramunich and left with 1 kg of munich remaining?

I think with the hops and yeast you have in hand its going to end up quite american. You could always try doing a Black IPA?!

Pilsner malt - 2.5kg
Vienna Malt - 1.5kg
Munich Malt - 1.5kg
Caramunich II - 150g

 

[MattC]

Oh, another option is do a US oktoberfest ale with the all the vienna, pils and caramunich and left with 1 kg of munich remaining?

I think with the hops and yeast you have in hand its going to end up quite american. You could always try doing a Black IPA?!

Pilsner malt - 2.5kg
Vienna Malt - 1.5kg
Munich Malt - 1.5kg
Caramunich II - 150g

Thanks 4star, I see you have a black IPA in the keg at present (assuming your sig is up to date Out of curiosity, what was your recipe and how did it turn out??

Cheers

 

[Fourstar]

Thanks 4star, I see you have a black IPA in the keg at present (assuming your sig is up to date Out of curiosity, what was your recipe and how did it turn out??
Cheers

Decidedly black! its kinda borderline US Stout but its rather chocolatey than roasty. There is some tweaking that needs to be done. Next time i think i will use some black sticky rice in the mash and just enough carafa to get the colour. The US hop flavour is there thats for sure, i could probably dial back the carafa somewhat and get it in the darkbrown - black territory to help subdue the chocolate. Other option was a Schwarzbier hopped off its head and called a Black IPA. i recon it would work well as the style.

Black IPA
American IPA
Batch Size: 23.00 L
Brewer: Braden
Boil Size: 30.90 L
Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 68.0

Ingredients
4.50 kg Pilsner, Malt Craft Export (Joe White) (1.7 SRM) Grain 76.9 %
0.50 kg Carafoam (Weyermann) (2.0 SRM) Grain 8.5 %
0.35 kg Carafa Special III (Weyermann) (470.0 SRM) Grain 6.0 %
0.30 kg Caramalt (Joe White) (17.3 SRM) Grain 5.1 %
0.20 kg Melanoidin (Weyermann) (30.0 SRM) Grain 3.4 %
30.00 gm Magnum [12.50%] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 45.2 IBU
40.00 gm Centennial [10.00%] (15 min) Hops 21.8 IBU
20.00 gm Centennial [10.00%] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 gm Baking Soda (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
2.00 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
6.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc

Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.1 %
Bitterness: 67.0 IBU
Est Color: 26.7 SRM

Mash Profile
Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 17.00 L of water at 70.6 C 65.0 C 60 min
Mash Out Add 12.00 L of water at 96.2 C 77.0 C 10 min

Notes
NaHCO3 and CaCl to mash
CaSO4 to boil

 

[Greg Lawrence]

1.00 gm Baking Soda (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
2.00 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
6.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc

What do these 3 do?

 

[Fourstar]

What do these 3 do?

Magic!!!! :lol:

Baking Soda (carbonates) for Mash pH due to dark malts in the mash.
Calcium Chloride for Calcium additons to the mash to aid enzyme support.
CaSO4 to the kettle for beer water profile adjustment and sulfate to accentuate hop bitterness.

 

[Greg Lawrence]

Magic!!!! :lol:

Baking Soda (carbonates) for Mash pH due to dark malts in the mash.
Calcium Chloride for Calcium additons to the mash to aid enzyme support.
CaSO4 to the kettle for beer water profile adjustment and sulfate to accentuate hop bitterness.

So does the Calcium Chloride improve your efficiency or speed up conversion (shorter mash time)?

 

[drsmurto]

Dark mild

58% pils
30% munich
4% choc
4% crystal
4% biscuit

Bittered to 25 IBU with POR

OG 1.040, mash at 69C.
S-04 yeast

Or a brown porter using the same grist but upping the OG to 1.050, IBU to 34 and mash at 66C.

 

[Fourstar]

So does the Calcium Chloride improve your efficiency or speed up conversion (shorter mash time)?

Safety net for me really. It just ensures the amylases have the appropriate environment and pH todo their job. If the pH isnt as expected they may not work as well as they should. I do this for repeatability and to combat attenuation issues. For brewing, Calcium is the essence of life and unfortunatly Melbournes water is heavily lacking in it.

 

[manticle]

Hi all, I am currently attempting to use up some old stock and turn into a half decent recipe (to a particular style if possible). I have the following ingredients left...

MALTS
Choc Malt - 190g
Pale Crystal - 150g
Roast Barley - 500g
Black Malt - 450g
Flaked Barley - 450g
Pilsner malt - 2.5kg
Vienna Malt - 1.5kg
Munich Malt - 2.5kg
Wheat - 500g
Melanoidin - 350g
Caramunich II - 150g
Carafa III - 500g
Bicuit - 250g

HOPS
Simcoe - 45g
Cascade - 95g
Pride of Ringwood - 35g

YEAST
4 x Pkts S-04
2 x Pkts US-05

Was trying to do something other than an APA or Amber Ale, as I have just done one each of those, I know my hop supply is pretty limited but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as I have brewers block at present

Cheers

An american brown ale (with biscuit malt), cascade and simcoe and an Australian style stout (a la Coopers) with pride of Ringwood.