Style Of The Week 5/7/06 - Apa
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Thinking about this one as a semi-hopburst APA.
Cluster and Cascade combo all the way through.
Still working out beersmith and my system so my efficiency might be a little higher but I think the IBUs will work ok either way...
Haven't attempted an APA as AG yet, just some extract ones in the past so any comments appreciated.
I really want to use up my 70g of Cluster which is why I've gone this. I could use some Amarillo but I'd rather save that to use with the last 20g of Cascade...
Recipe: CC Rider
Brewer: Mooshells
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)
Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 22.00 L
Boil Size: 35.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.052 SG
Estimated Color: 7.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 42.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.0 %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
2.50 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 46.3 %
2.50 kg Pale Malt (Barrett Burston) (2.0 SRM) Grain 46.3 %
0.20 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.7 %
0.10 kg Carared (Weyermann) (24.0 SRM) Grain 1.9 %
0.10 kg Crystal, Dark (Bairds) (110.0 SRM) Grain 1.9 %
15.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (60 min) Hops 12.6 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (60 min) Hops 12.2 IBU
10.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (15 min) Hops 4.2 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (15 min) Hops 4.1 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (10 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
10.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (10 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
10.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (5 min) Hops 1.7 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (5 min) Hops 1.6 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)Hops -
10.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)Hops -
15.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (Dry Hop 6 days) Hops -
15.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (Dry Hop 6 days) Hops -
Cluster and Cascade combo all the way through.
Still working out beersmith and my system so my efficiency might be a little higher but I think the IBUs will work ok either way...
Haven't attempted an APA as AG yet, just some extract ones in the past so any comments appreciated.
I really want to use up my 70g of Cluster which is why I've gone this. I could use some Amarillo but I'd rather save that to use with the last 20g of Cascade...
Recipe: CC Rider
Brewer: Mooshells
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)
Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 22.00 L
Boil Size: 35.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.052 SG
Estimated Color: 7.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 42.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.0 %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
2.50 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 46.3 %
2.50 kg Pale Malt (Barrett Burston) (2.0 SRM) Grain 46.3 %
0.20 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.7 %
0.10 kg Carared (Weyermann) (24.0 SRM) Grain 1.9 %
0.10 kg Crystal, Dark (Bairds) (110.0 SRM) Grain 1.9 %
15.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (60 min) Hops 12.6 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (60 min) Hops 12.2 IBU
10.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (15 min) Hops 4.2 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (15 min) Hops 4.1 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (10 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
10.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (10 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
10.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (5 min) Hops 1.7 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (5 min) Hops 1.6 IBU
10.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)Hops -
10.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)Hops -
15.00 gm Cascade [6.70%] (Dry Hop 6 days) Hops -
15.00 gm Cluster [6.90%] (Dry Hop 6 days) Hops -
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Hey guys, just reviving this thread to ask a few questions about Chinook in American Pale Ales.
I've got this recipe in mind, I wanted a Cascade backbone with a Chinook bite, but I am unsure as to just how much Chinook to use. Searching through other threads, I've read that less is more when it comes to Chinook as it can be quite harsh.
I wanted to get this one ready for the grand final.
Chinook Pale Ale, partial mash
Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.048 SG (1.045-1.056 SG)
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.012 SG (1.010-1.015 SG)
Estimated Color: 17.5 EBC
Bitterness: 38 IBU (20.0-40.0 IBU)
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 4.8 %
Batch Size: 21.50 L
Boil Volume: 18.37 L Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 66.0 % (estimated, will be batch sparging)
Fermentables:
1.50 kg Coopers Malt Extract - Light (16.0 EBC) Extract 33.3 %
2.75 kg Pilsner, Malt Craft Export (Joe White) (3.2 EBC) Grain 61.1 %
0.25 kg Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 5.6 %
Hops:
20.00 gm Northern Brewer [8.50%] (60 min) Hops 17.1 IBU
5.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (60 min) Hops 6.5 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (30 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
5.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (30 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (5 min) Hops 1.7 IBU
5.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (5 min) Hops 1.3 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 7 days)
Yeast:
Safale S-05
The mash will be single infusion at 66˚C for an hour with a mash out at 75˚C.
What do we reckon? Is 15 grams of Chinook enough, too much? Less in bittering, more in flavour? Is it suitable for dry hopping?
I've got this recipe in mind, I wanted a Cascade backbone with a Chinook bite, but I am unsure as to just how much Chinook to use. Searching through other threads, I've read that less is more when it comes to Chinook as it can be quite harsh.
I wanted to get this one ready for the grand final.
Chinook Pale Ale, partial mash
Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.048 SG (1.045-1.056 SG)
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.012 SG (1.010-1.015 SG)
Estimated Color: 17.5 EBC
Bitterness: 38 IBU (20.0-40.0 IBU)
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 4.8 %
Batch Size: 21.50 L
Boil Volume: 18.37 L Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 66.0 % (estimated, will be batch sparging)
Fermentables:
1.50 kg Coopers Malt Extract - Light (16.0 EBC) Extract 33.3 %
2.75 kg Pilsner, Malt Craft Export (Joe White) (3.2 EBC) Grain 61.1 %
0.25 kg Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 5.6 %
Hops:
20.00 gm Northern Brewer [8.50%] (60 min) Hops 17.1 IBU
5.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (60 min) Hops 6.5 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (30 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
5.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (30 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (5 min) Hops 1.7 IBU
5.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (5 min) Hops 1.3 IBU
20.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 7 days)
Yeast:
Safale S-05
The mash will be single infusion at 66˚C for an hour with a mash out at 75˚C.
What do we reckon? Is 15 grams of Chinook enough, too much? Less in bittering, more in flavour? Is it suitable for dry hopping?
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Okay, that sounds good. Will dry hop with 10 grams of Chinook in addition to the 20g of Cascade at dry hop, and maybe I'll chuck in another 5 or 10 at flameout. I'm approaching 40 IBUs with this recipe as it is, don't want to over bitter as my pansy mates have to drink this stuff!
Cheers for your opinion.
Cheers for your opinion.
Just to keep this thread going for a while longer....
I've got a few bits and bobs of hops including 30g Simcoe and nearly a full 90g pack of Horizon and Amarillo so I thought I'd do a semi hopburst APA to fill up new keg no3....
Just thought I'd look to see if these seemed way wide of the mark as I haven't really played much with the hopburst type method.
Any other thoughts most welcome...
APA
Brewer: Mooshells
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 23.00 L
Boil Size: 35.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated Color: 21.8 EBC
Estimated IBU: 41.2 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
2500.00 gm Pale Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.9 EBC) Grain 45.05 %
2000.00 gm Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 36.04 %
500.00 gm Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 9.01 %
200.00 gm Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC) Grain 3.60 %
100.00 gm Caramunich II (Weyermann) (124.1 EBC) Grain 1.80 %
100.00 gm Crystal, Dark (Bairds) (216.7 EBC) Grain 1.80 %
100.00 gm Melanoidin (Weyermann) (59.1 EBC) Grain 1.80 %
50.00 gm Carafa Special I (Weyermann) (630.4 EBC) Grain 0.90 %
30.00 gm Horizon [9.30 %] (20 min) Hops 19.4 IBU
15.00 gm Simcoe [11.00 %] (10 min) Hops 6.9 IBU
10.00 gm Horizon [9.30 %] (10 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
30.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.90 %] (10 min) Hops 11.1 IBU
15.00 gm Simcoe [11.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
15.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.90 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 tsp Salt (Boil 75.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Safale S05 (US56) (Safale #S05) Yeast-Ale
I've got a few bits and bobs of hops including 30g Simcoe and nearly a full 90g pack of Horizon and Amarillo so I thought I'd do a semi hopburst APA to fill up new keg no3....
Just thought I'd look to see if these seemed way wide of the mark as I haven't really played much with the hopburst type method.
Any other thoughts most welcome...
APA
Brewer: Mooshells
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 23.00 L
Boil Size: 35.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated Color: 21.8 EBC
Estimated IBU: 41.2 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
2500.00 gm Pale Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.9 EBC) Grain 45.05 %
2000.00 gm Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 36.04 %
500.00 gm Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 9.01 %
200.00 gm Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC) Grain 3.60 %
100.00 gm Caramunich II (Weyermann) (124.1 EBC) Grain 1.80 %
100.00 gm Crystal, Dark (Bairds) (216.7 EBC) Grain 1.80 %
100.00 gm Melanoidin (Weyermann) (59.1 EBC) Grain 1.80 %
50.00 gm Carafa Special I (Weyermann) (630.4 EBC) Grain 0.90 %
30.00 gm Horizon [9.30 %] (20 min) Hops 19.4 IBU
15.00 gm Simcoe [11.00 %] (10 min) Hops 6.9 IBU
10.00 gm Horizon [9.30 %] (10 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
30.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.90 %] (10 min) Hops 11.1 IBU
15.00 gm Simcoe [11.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
15.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.90 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 tsp Salt (Boil 75.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Safale S05 (US56) (Safale #S05) Yeast-Ale
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Looks fine to me as is. I'd probably drop the Carafa, though there's no reason not to have an APA at the darker end of the scale.
One question about the hops - why have you chosen to use the amounts you have, when you have? You have 30g at 20, 55g at 10, and 30g at 0. Not saying there's anything wrong with it, just wondering. :unsure:
One question about the hops - why have you chosen to use the amounts you have, when you have? You have 30g at 20, 55g at 10, and 30g at 0. Not saying there's anything wrong with it, just wondering. :unsure:
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I know your not a style brewer Ben so the carafa is up to you, I take its only there for colour. I would drop the carapils, you already have a lot of crystal malt in there and if you want more body just mash a degree or 2 higher.
I first started to use horizon because I read it was a clean bittering hop but the last couple of times it has given a really Bizarre flavour... not something I enjoyed No idea what it would be like at late addition so it may be worth a try.
Go the simcoe/amarillo combo, its what I used in my QAAWBG apa to beat Ross
I first started to use horizon because I read it was a clean bittering hop but the last couple of times it has given a really Bizarre flavour... not something I enjoyed
No idea what it would be like at late addition so it may be worth a try.Go the simcoe/amarillo combo, its what I used in my QAAWBG apa to beat Ross
There is and there isn't. I have 30g of Simcoe, but I figured 90g of hopburst wasn't enough, which is what I would get if I mixed the three in equal amounts.
So I put a 30g 'bittering' addition @20 and was originally going to have equal amounts at the 10 and 0 minute addition but then the IBUs didn't seem right so I wacked in another few bits here and there.
Jye, I know Simcoe amarillo would work well but I have a small amount of Simcoe and I'm interested in using the Horizon because it is there
As for the carafa, it has to be used up and I also really like the stuff so a little amount to put a little of the character in there will be alright I think...And you are right, style isn't a huge concern
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just personal preference I think sathid. Nothing wrong with cascade going in at 60. I do it all the time....if you got them mixed up how do you know if it WAS cascade at 60 mins? I personally think too much chinook is overpowering.
Cheers
Steve
I labelled the containers with my hops, but put the wrong "addition time" on the label. So technically I didn't mistake the cascade for the chinook, but actually added them at the wrong time. I realised only after I added the first lot of hops (20g of cascade), so I halved my second addition (meant to be the first ) of cascade, and added some chinook in with them.
Thanks for the feedback! I was a bit worried that they might not be very good bittering hops or something (certainly tastes quite bitter at the moment)
) of cascade, and added some chinook in with them. Thanks for the feedback! I was a bit worried that they might not be very good bittering hops or something (certainly tastes quite bitter at the moment
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Have posted on another thread but will go here as well doing my first APA
Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.50 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.9 EBC) Grain 86.54 %
0.50 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 9.62 %
0.20 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC) Grain 3.85 %
18.00 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 23.2 IBU
30.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (15 min) Hops 12.6 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (2 min) Hops 1.4 IBU
I have been reading this style thread & chinook sounds overpowering so maybe I'de be better
1. using it less as a bittering hop
2. using it later as a flavour hop swapping the amarillo to bitter
I realise its a use & see how ya go thing but jeez it takes a while to turn a beer out so dont really want to learn the long hard way, advice would be greatly appriciated thanks all
Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.50 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (5.9 EBC) Grain 86.54 %
0.50 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 9.62 %
0.20 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC) Grain 3.85 %
18.00 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 23.2 IBU
30.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (15 min) Hops 12.6 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (2 min) Hops 1.4 IBU
I have been reading this style thread & chinook sounds overpowering so maybe I'de be better
1. using it less as a bittering hop
2. using it later as a flavour hop swapping the amarillo to bitter
I realise its a use & see how ya go thing but jeez it takes a while to turn a beer out so dont really want to learn the long hard way, advice would be greatly appriciated thanks all
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I brewed the RECIPE A a few weeks ago, it came out very nice however just a fraction under where I was hoping for in both malt and hop flavour. I am still however looking for a really light, summer session APA with a flavour similar to a cross between LCBA & JS Golden Ale. The IBU is where I want it to be even though it is under for the style.
Looking for comments on RECIPE B.. I have just added some crystal (good/bad idea?), changed the percentages of malt and increased the 20min hop additions a little more...
Maybe I should change the Saaz B to cascade?
Cheers
RECIPE A
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Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 50.00 L
Boil Size: 57.23 L
Estimated OG: 1.043 SG
Estimated Color: 6.2 EBC
Estimated IBU: 27.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6500.00 gm Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 72.22 %
1750.00 gm Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 19.44 %
750.00 gm Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 8.33 %
20.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (50 min) Hops 8.0 IBU
20.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (50 min) Hops 8.4 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (20 min) Hops 5.1 IBU
20.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (20 min) Hops 5.4 IBU
10.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (0 min) Hops -
RECIPE B
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Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 50.00 L
Boil Size: 57.23 L
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 7.7 EBC
Estimated IBU: 27.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6500.00 gm Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 69.52 %
2000.00 gm Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 21.39 %
750.00 gm Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 8.02 %
100.00 gm Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett) (118.2Grain 1.07 %
15.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (50 min) Hops 6.2 IBU
15.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (50 min) Hops 6.0 IBU
30.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (20 min) Hops 7.6 IBU
30.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (20 min) Hops 8.0 IBU
10.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (0 min) Hops -
Looking for comments on RECIPE B.. I have just added some crystal (good/bad idea?), changed the percentages of malt and increased the 20min hop additions a little more...
Maybe I should change the Saaz B to cascade?
Cheers
RECIPE A
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Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 50.00 L
Boil Size: 57.23 L
Estimated OG: 1.043 SG
Estimated Color: 6.2 EBC
Estimated IBU: 27.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6500.00 gm Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 72.22 %
1750.00 gm Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 19.44 %
750.00 gm Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 8.33 %
20.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (50 min) Hops 8.0 IBU
20.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (50 min) Hops 8.4 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (20 min) Hops 5.1 IBU
20.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (20 min) Hops 5.4 IBU
10.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (0 min) Hops -
RECIPE B
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Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 50.00 L
Boil Size: 57.23 L
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 7.7 EBC
Estimated IBU: 27.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6500.00 gm Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 69.52 %
2000.00 gm Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 21.39 %
750.00 gm Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 8.02 %
100.00 gm Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett) (118.2Grain 1.07 %
15.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (50 min) Hops 6.2 IBU
15.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (50 min) Hops 6.0 IBU
30.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (20 min) Hops 7.6 IBU
30.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (20 min) Hops 8.0 IBU
10.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (0 min) Hops -
10.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (0 min) Hops -
personally, i'd
bump up the IBU a little to 30-32 on Recipe B.
0min hops to be all Amarillo and be .5g/l
your OG and IBU are pretty identical on both receipies but more Vienna and with an addition of crystal. I think (and I may be talking out of my a$$) it maybe less hoppy and a little sweeter? Hence by suggestion of upping the IBU to counteract...
Happy to be corrected.
bump up the IBU a little to 30-32 on Recipe B.
0min hops to be all Amarillo and be .5g/l
your OG and IBU are pretty identical on both receipies but more Vienna and with an addition of crystal. I think (and I may be talking out of my a$$) it maybe less hoppy and a little sweeter? Hence by suggestion of upping the IBU to counteract...
Happy to be corrected.
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depends what you're trying to achieve. More malt then I'd use caraaroma or caramunich rather than a straight crystal. malt flavour rather than sweetness and caramel. You may be betteer off adding Munich in place of your vienna to get a better malt profile. I love Vienna to add a bit of depth but if you think it lacks maltiness then Munich is the way. You could split the Vienna
More hop flavour you need to probably hit at least 1.5g/l for your hopping. 50l batch so total hops at flavour of 75g and you're at 60. Why not make up the extra with some cascade? say 20g. at that level it shouldn't get over the top.
I'd up your aroma additions as well, a belnd of cascade and amarillo would help. Try and get it up to 1g/l.
But in saying all that, if you think Recipa A was alright but just a little under - go with what you have except my recommendation for munich stands. I'd go 70% Ale, 12% Vienna, 10% Munich 8% Wheat (if you like it in there - personally I don't and would increase the Ale malt)
More hop flavour you need to probably hit at least 1.5g/l for your hopping. 50l batch so total hops at flavour of 75g and you're at 60. Why not make up the extra with some cascade? say 20g. at that level it shouldn't get over the top.
I'd up your aroma additions as well, a belnd of cascade and amarillo would help. Try and get it up to 1g/l.
But in saying all that, if you think Recipa A was alright but just a little under - go with what you have except my recommendation for munich stands. I'd go 70% Ale, 12% Vienna, 10% Munich 8% Wheat (if you like it in there - personally I don't and would increase the Ale malt)
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Thanks for the info, when I get home I will make some mods such as removing the crystal, adding in some munich in place of the vienna and some cascade flavour hops.
Will update with my recipe when I can.
Cheers
Will update with my recipe when I can.
Cheers
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RECIPE UPDATED..... Any comments?
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Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 50.00 L
Boil Size: 57.23 L
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 7.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 29.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6500.00 gm Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 70.27 %
1000.00 gm Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 10.81 %
1000.00 gm Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 10.81 %
750.00 gm Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 8.11 %
15.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (50 min) Hops 6.3 IBU
15.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (50 min) Hops 6.0 IBU
25.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (20 min) Hops 6.3 IBU
25.00 gm Cascade [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
25.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (20 min) Hops 6.7 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (0 min) Hops -
Cheers
:icon_cheers:
Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 50.00 L
Boil Size: 57.23 L
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 7.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 29.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6500.00 gm Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 70.27 %
1000.00 gm Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 10.81 %
1000.00 gm Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 10.81 %
750.00 gm Wheat Malt, Pale (Weyermann) (3.9 EBC) Grain 8.11 %
15.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (50 min) Hops 6.3 IBU
15.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (50 min) Hops 6.0 IBU
25.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (20 min) Hops 6.3 IBU
25.00 gm Cascade [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
25.00 gm Saaz B [8.60 %] (20 min) Hops 6.7 IBU
20.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (0 min) Hops -
im not experienced enough to comment on how good it is, just have a question about why you pick certain ingredients.
what does adding the Vienna do that the Munich cant?
and why Pilsner instead of Ale or Pale Ale?
sorry to detract
